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    Projected Lineups as of today

    Against Righties:

    Hamilton
    Phillips
    Dunn
    Griffey
    Encarnacion
    Votto
    Valentin
    Gonzalez

    Against Lefties:

    Hopper
    Keppinger
    Griffey/Hamilton/Dunn
    Phillips
    Dunn/Hamiton/Griffey
    Encarancion
    Ross
    Gonzalez

    Not too shabby! A bunch of hitters at every point!
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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    I like Votto #2. He's a good OBP guy with decent speed. He also would (maybe) see more fastballs since he's in front of Dunn
    The problem is 4 lefties in a row. So then I would move EE 4th instead of BP since his OBP is better. Griffey is 5th, which is still a good spot for him. (From memory) he hit very well couple years ago (2005?) batting 5th. BP goes 6th and his all or nothing approach would be acceptable there.


    Against Righties:

    Hamilton
    Votto
    Dunn
    Encarnacion
    Griffey
    Phillips
    Ross/Valentin
    Gonzalez
    Last edited by mlbfan30; 12-12-2007 at 12:47 AM.

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    can't put Phillips #2... no OBP

    I also believe that Ross will see more starts against RHP than Valentin...

    RH:
    Hamilton
    EE
    Dunn
    Griffey
    Phillips
    Votto
    Gonzalez
    Ross

    LH:
    Hopper
    Keppinger
    Dunn
    Griffey
    Phillips
    EE
    Gonzalez
    Ross
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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Do you really want Hopper and his BA alone determining how often he reaches base. I would like to see both Hamilton and Votto seeing more time against lefties than they probably will have. You can't force them to be career platoon guys. I'd argue that the more you replace them for lefties, the worse they become at hitting lefties since they don't get enough PA. I'd only use Hopper/Kepp to give rest when needed, but not have both in the lineup in the same day.
    The reason BP and EE flip is basically because BP is a better hitter against LHP, while EE stays close to the same.
    If I had to put Hopper here, I would just bat him 7th or 8th

    Against Lefties: (1 possibility)

    Hamilton
    Keppinger/Votto
    Dunn
    Phillips
    Griffey
    Encarnacion
    Ross
    Gonzalez

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    I just hate seeing Hamilton in the lead off spot. He just seems to be more valuable in RBI opportunities.

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    I agree. I'd have Keppinger play SS and lead off. After that, everyone can pretty much hit until the 8 and 9 spots. Really wish we had a catcher who could hit.
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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Here's my lineup against Righties and Lefties

    1. CF- Hamilton
    2. 3rd- Encarnacion
    3. LF- Dunn
    4. 2nd- Phillips
    5. RF- Griffey
    6. 1st- Votto
    7. SS- Gonzo
    8. C- Ross/Javy
    9. Pitcher
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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    I really don't think these lineups are bad at all, there are a lot of options and hopefully the defense will stay somewhat consistent. It's the pitching that has me worried.

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    #2 is tough to hit; I wouldn't put Votto there to start, maybe later in season.

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    #2 is tough to hit; I wouldn't put Votto there to start, maybe later in season.

    To me, it seems that Hamilton is the perfect #2 hitter on this club. All these lineups scream that the Reds need a true lead off hitter.

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    No teams needs a "true" leadoff hitter. Juan Pierre is a "true" leadoff hitter and he sucks. All the Reds need is a good OBP guy with some speed and some power. Hamilton showed he can handle it last year and can again this year. So what if he doesn't get as many RBIs opps. This is his stat line from the leadoff spot
    .336 .405 .617 -0.341 BABIP-
    This is Keppinger, but he has good numbers from the 2nd spot.
    .143 .217 .286 -.105 BABIP-[23PA] ----------- .323 .378 .444 -0.325 BABIP-
    This is Hopper
    .343 .395 .404 -0.380 BABIP-(not as bad as i thought it would be, but do you really think he's a .340 hitter. Put him down to a .300 hitter and his line looks more like .300/.350/.350)

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMilner View Post
    To me, it seems that Hamilton is the perfect #2 hitter on this club. All these lineups scream that the Reds need a true lead off hitter.
    I agree with you milner, it's just tough to find a way for that to work. playing hopper is the solution in my opinion, but who do you bench to play him? you really can't.

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    Here's my lineup against Righties and Lefties

    1. CF- Hamilton
    2. 3rd- Encarnacion
    3. LF- Dunn
    4. 2nd- Phillips
    5. RF- Griffey
    6. 1st- Votto
    7. SS- Gonzo
    8. C- Ross/Javy
    9. Pitcher
    Correct. I wouldn't platoon Hamilton or Votto either.

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    Here's my lineup against Righties and Lefties

    1. CF- Hamilton
    2. 3rd- Encarnacion
    3. LF- Dunn
    4. 2nd- Phillips
    5. RF- Griffey
    6. 1st- Votto
    7. SS- Gonzo
    8. C- Ross/Javy
    9. Pitcher
    We pretty much agree. You should consider moving Griffey ahead of Phillips because of the better Onbase PCT...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Projected Lineups as of today

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    #2 is tough to hit; I wouldn't put Votto there to start, maybe later in season.
    why is #2 tough to hit? What makes it different?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."


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