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  • Scott Carroll

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  • Chris Dickerson

    4 4.88%
  • Rafael Gonzalez

    1 1.22%
  • Sean Henry

    1 1.22%
  • Evan Hildenbrandt

    0 0%
  • Sam Lecure

    1 1.22%
  • Derrik Lutz

    2 2.44%
  • Marcus McBeth

    1 1.22%
  • Tyler Pelland

    15 18.29%
  • Justin Reed

    2 2.44%
  • Adam Rosales

    22 26.83%
  • Jordan Smith

    0 0%
  • Craig Tatum

    2 2.44%
  • Daryl Thompson

    14 17.07%
  • Justin Turner

    3 3.66%
  • Chris Valaika

    3 3.66%
  • Pedro Viola

    11 13.41%
  • Other (please specifiy)

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    Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Vote for the player who you think is the Reds #18 prospect (the best prospect who is not yet on the list). We will go with this as far as you guys want to take it.

    I will post a new list every 2 days with 10-15 options to vote on.

    If you feel like making an argument on why a guy should be voted here, feel free to vote and state why you voted for that player.

    If there is someone that is not currently listed as an option to vote on, vote for 'other' then just state who you want to vote for in the thread.

    If there is anyone you would like to see as an option on the next poll, just say so and if they garner enough support, they will be placed on the next poll. Guys with the lowest amount of votes will usually be removed for the next few guys who were talked about in the previous thread.


    Prospect 1 - Jay Bruce
    Prospect 2 - Homer Bailey
    Prospect 3 - Johnny Cueto
    Prospect 4 - Joey Votto
    Prospect 5 - Todd Frazier
    Prospect 6 - Drew Stubbs
    Prospect 7 - Matt Maloney
    Prospect 8 - Josh Roenicke
    Prospect 9 - Travis Wood
    Prospect 10 - Devin Mesoraco
    Prospect 11 - Kyle Lotzkar
    Prospect 12 - Danny Dorn
    Prospect 13 - Sean Watson
    Prospect 14 - Carlos Fisher
    Prospect 15 - Juan Francisco
    Prospect 16 - Neftali Soto
    Prospect 17 - Brandon Waring

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Daryl Thompson:

    3.18 ERA, 133 IP, 122 H, 121 K, 33 BB overall last season between Dayton and Sarasota.

    2.55 ERA, 49.1 IP, 44 H, 45 K, 14 BB in his last 10 starts at Sarasota.

    He outpitched Sean Watson at the same levels, and pitched twice as much at High-A. Low-maybe mid-90s FB, solid curve, decent changeup.

    He'll be at AA this year. He might even start the season there.
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Daryl Thompson:

    3.18 ERA, 133 IP, 122 H, 121 K, 33 BB overall last season between Dayton and Sarasota.

    2.55 ERA, 49.1 IP, 44 H, 45 K, 14 BB in his last 10 starts at Sarasota.

    He outpitched Sean Watson at the same levels, and pitched twice as much at High-A. Low-maybe mid-90s FB, solid curve, decent changeup.

    He'll be at AA this year. He might even start the season there.
    As much as I formerly liked Thompson the more I look at the #'s the more I wonder if he can make it at all. Sure the #'s look fine until you start to project that out to stiffer competition down the road a bit. He already has more IP's than K's and his hits are right up there with his IP's. I'm starting to see him as a AAAA/fringy starter kind of guy who will get held back at some point to be dangled as trade bait, ala Medlock and Guevara. I also feel the same about Lecure. Someone tell me why I'm wrong here and I may consider changing my view on it.

    Pelland and Rosales are solid choices here as well but I feel the same way OBM does about Viola he has just kicked tail wherever he has gone to this point, so until he hiccups he has my vote. Of course he's had my vote for a long time.
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    I noticed that in Dougdirts end of the season Top 40 that Valaika was 16 and Turner 18. What has changed since the end of the season for them to drop out of the Top 20? I think that they are both deserving of a Top 20 ranking based on their performances in 06 and 07. Valaika was the 06 POY and an 07 all-star. Turner was a 06 and 07 all-star (mid-season and Post season ) They were in the top 5 for total hits in the Reds organization this year.
    1.Griffin 171
    2.Bruce 166
    3.Turner 149
    4.Valaika 147
    5.Votto 146(not including MLB)

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed07 View Post
    I noticed that in Dougdirts end of the season Top 40 that Valaika was 16 and Turner 18. What has changed since the end of the season for them to drop out of the Top 20? I think that they are both deserving of a Top 20 ranking based on their performances in 06 and 07. Valaika was the 06 POY and an 07 all-star. Turner was a 06 and 07 all-star (mid-season and Post season ) They were in the top 5 for total hits in the Reds organization this year.
    1.Griffin 171
    2.Bruce 166
    3.Turner 149
    4.Valaika 147
    5.Votto 146(not including MLB)
    For me, nothing has changed. The problem is guys I have ranked higher are still not voted on, so I am voting for the highest ranked guy I have left. It was Adam Rosales, who I had at #14.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    As much as I formerly liked Thompson the more I look at the #'s the more I wonder if he can make it at all. Sure the #'s look fine until you start to project that out to stiffer competition down the road a bit. He already has more IP's than K's and his hits are right up there with his IP's. I'm starting to see him as a AAAA/fringy starter kind of guy who will get held back at some point to be dangled as trade bait, ala Medlock and Guevara. I also feel the same about Lecure. Someone tell me why I'm wrong here and I may consider changing my view on it.
    Solid control (career 2.7 BB/9)? Considered to have quite a bit of upside before injury problems (was ranked n. 7 Nationals prospect by BA)?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Solid control (career 2.7 BB/9)? Considered to have quite a bit of upside before injury problems (was ranked n. 7 Nationals prospect by BA)?
    That first part is fair but he's still seems to be giving up too many hits for my liking, although I am not giving up on him just yet, just think Viola, Pelland and Rosales are clearly better bets at this point.

    The 2nd part doesn't exactly say a whole lot, they had about 2 or 3 prospects worth even considering above A ball last year. That said I still like him just beginning to get on the fence about him.
    Last edited by Mario-Rijo; 12-18-2007 at 06:12 PM.
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    This is one of the few picks in which I'm going with production over ceiling: Adam Rosales.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    This is one of the few picks in which I'm going with production over ceiling: Adam Rosales.
    I think we are to the point now where a lot of these guys are interchangeable. Its a matter of whether you prefer performance or potential, starting pitchers against position players, relief pitchers against everyone else. I personally wouldn't vote for Pelland until Thompson and Rosales are selected, but its really not that big of a difference. These guys will all be at AA or higher this season and have performed well. It says a lot for the system that one of them will be ranked as low as #20.
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Adam Rosales for me

    He hit .286/.385/.519 combined this year between A+ and AA. He hits lefties and righties about the same and has the ability to play first base and third base.

    He is an advanced bat in the upper minors who can play several positions. He will probably start in AAA next year, so he is very close and has performed very well with the exception of an injury plagued 2006. He lit the world on fire in 2005 and did pretty much the same in 2007.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    I think Pelland and Rosales are the two next guys. I view Pelland as a good lefty non-closer reliever. I view Rosales as probably a good backup corner infielder.

    I think a lefty reliever is probably a shade more important than a good backup non-shortstop infielder. Also Pelland is closer to the major leagues, having done well at AAA, and will only be 24 this season.

    Pelland, then Rosales next.

    Doug, I think Janish needs to be on the list since he was top ten on many lists a year ago.
    Last edited by Kc61; 12-17-2007 at 03:10 PM.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Doug, I think Janish needs to be on the list since he was top ten on many lists a year ago.
    Will do.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    If people want to pick a left-handed reliever, I'd go with Pedro Viola. After Rosales is picked, that's who I'm going with.

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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    If people want to pick a left-handed reliever, I'd go with Pedro Viola. After Rosales is picked, that's who I'm going with.
    Just went back and looked at his stats. You're right. He was pretty amazing. I have no idea what he throws, which would make me hesitant to vote for him. I'll vote for him at #21, provided that Pelland, Rosales, and Thompson go in some order 18-20.
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    Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #18

    I will keep voting for Pedro until he makes it. He did really well last year.


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