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    2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    I know it may be a bit early for season predictions and all, considering it's only the end of Decemeber and plenty of moves can still be made. But if the season started today, how would you think it would end in the NL Central. Personally, here's how I have it going...

    1) Brewers (88-74)
    2) Cubs (86-76)
    3) Reds (80-82)
    4) Astros (75-87)
    5) Cardinals (73-89)
    6) Pirates (66-96)

    Considering how young the Brewers are, I'd only have to imagine they'd have to get better. Especially considering they'll have Ryan Braun in their lineup the entire season, not just half. Granted, they do have issues with their pen, but their infield of Braun/Hardy/Weeks/Fielder might provide the most offense of any infield in the NL, with exception to the Mets. And an outfield of Bill Hall and Corey Hart isn't that bad either.

    Regarding the Reds, I like where they're going. Offensively, we all know what they're going to be capable of. It's the starting pitching that's going to hold the team back. Bailey, Ceuto, and Volquez might have all the potential in the world, but it takes time to develop consistency in the majors.
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    I think Volquez's end of the year was a good predictor for him, I really think he put it together even some of the way.

    I really believe with him and Bailey it was a drive to get to the majors and STAY. They overpitched, underthought and got tossed around.
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    Just for fun Oxilon, on this day I see the following happening regarding the NL Central standings at the conclusion of the 2008 regular season:
    1. Chicago - Sweet Lou gets the most from his Cubbie players. Out in 1st rd. of playoffs.
    2. Milwaukee- Great infield but could be cancelled by a weaker bullpen including Eric Gagne.
    3. Cincinnati- Still not enough pitching but the "kids" are so fun to watch. Look out in '09.
    4. St. Louis- Edmonds is gone, Carpenter has been hurt, Rolen is either hurt again or traded.
    5. Houston- Killer bees down to one "B" left (Berkman), Oswalt then who? Could pass St.Lou.
    6. Pittsburgh- Should be better but never are especially if they trade Jason Bay.

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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    From CAIRO projections with Diamond Mind Baseball and ran the season 100 times...... Ran Dec 19th.

    NL Central W L RF RA DIV WC
    Mil07 85.1 76.9 784 735 39.8 5.5
    ChN07 84.1 77.9 791 758 26.2 9.3
    Cin07 81.4 80.6 782 794 22.2 4.3
    StL07 76.8 85.2 734 780 5.5 2.5
    Hou07 74.4 87.7 750 804 6.3 1.3
    Pit07 67.3 94.7 684 824 0.0 0.0

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    The hapless Pirates..last place must look nice..
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    From CAIRO projections with Diamond Mind Baseball and ran the season 100 times...... Ran Dec 19th.

    NL Central W L RF RA DIV WC
    Mil07 85.1 76.9 784 735 39.8 5.5
    ChN07 84.1 77.9 791 758 26.2 9.3
    Cin07 81.4 80.6 782 794 22.2 4.3
    StL07 76.8 85.2 734 780 5.5 2.5
    Hou07 74.4 87.7 750 804 6.3 1.3
    Pit07 67.3 94.7 684 824 0.0 0.0

    Very interesting. What is their history with this? Have they done it before? How did their predictions play out before?
    Last edited by 757690; 12-23-2007 at 10:01 PM.

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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    A total guess, based on nothing but my gut.

    Cubs 90W Lou is a winner. Best pitching in the division.
    Reds 88W 08's version of the Brewers.
    Pirates 82W Duke and Maholm will bounce back. Russell a huge improvement.
    Brewers 78W Fell apart in 2nd half, and bullpen now much worse.
    Cards 70W Rebuilding.
    Astros 68W Just a horrible organization.

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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    It's new. A yankee's blogger made it up, so check out his site.

    http://www.replacementlevel.com/inde...rojections_v01

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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    It's new. A yankee's blogger made it up, so check out his site.

    http://www.replacementlevel.com/inde...rojections_v01
    thanks!

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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    I don't know if I could stand to see the Cubs in the playoffs again this season. They are the proverbial turd in the punch bowl of October baseball.

    For what its worth, which is very little, I think Bailey is going to put together a nice season and be on par with Harang and Arroyo (who I also expect to rebound). The last two spots in the rotation will be boom or bust. However, if its Volquez (very likely) and Cueto, it will be nice to have pitchers with good stuff on the mound instead of junkball pitchers constantly.

    But, I'd have to say the Cubs are favorites at this point. The back of their bullpen may be better without Dempster, saving Wood and Marmol for the late-innings. They're essentially the same team that won the division last year, except they added Fukudome, who will almost certainly be an improvement over who they ran out to RF last year. Then there is Geovany Soto, the young catcher, and Felix Pie. If one of them figures out what they're doing with the bat, its going to be a miserable season.

    Still time for the Reds to improve, though. I wouldn't break up the Bailey/Volquez/Cueto combination, but I'd like to see the Reds improve at catcher and acquire a better fourth outfielder, as that player will likely see at least 200 ABs. Mike Cameron, preferably.
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    1. Cubs 86-76
    2. Reds 84-78
    3. Brewers 81-81
    4. Cardinals 73-89
    5. Astros 71-91
    6. Pirates 70-92

    Hopefully that Reds record will be good enough for the Wild Card.
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    1. Cubs 88
    2. Brewers 86
    3. Reds 83
    4. Astros 77
    5. Cardinals 75
    6. Pirates 72

    I think this is an improving division. If Sheets or Carpenter get 25 starts move their team up a spot...
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    Brewers 85
    Reds 82
    Cubs 78
    Astros 76
    Cardinals 75
    Pirates 72

    I think the Cubs starting pitching has taken a step back, unless they make another move.

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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    I see another dogfight with the winner not surpassing 90 wins.

    Brewers might slide a bit.
    Cubs will probably improve.
    Reds should improve and were pretty decent the second half last season.
    Astros should improve, but not sure they improved their pitching much.
    Cards will probably slide.
    Pirates are young and improving.

    I think the division will be tough, mainly because we're all similar. None of the teams will do much in the playoffs.
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    Re: 2008 NL Central Standing Predictions

    Cubs - I think their underrated, that team has a lot of talen
    Brewers - Gonna be a dog fight for the top 2
    Reds - only because the bottom three are sliding like crazy
    Astros
    Pirates - Improving, could even see them ahead of the 'stros
    Cardinals - Absolutely terrible year headed their way


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