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  • Homer Bailey

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  • Johnny Cueto

    40 39.22%
  • Edinson Volquez

    12 11.76%
  • None of them will ever be better than a #4 starter

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Thread: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

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    Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    I haven't seen enough or know enough about Volquez so I am gonna say Bailey.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Just an arbitrary pick - couldn't say in reality who will.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Cueto. Stuff, command, velo. He's got it all. His size doesn't bother me, as his results speak for themselves.

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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Wow, no love for Volquez so far? He's my pick.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Wow, no love for Volquez so far? He's my pick.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Cueto. Stuff, command, velo. He's got it all. His size doesn't bother me, as his results speak for themselves.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    I voted Cueto. While stuff helps determine your ceiling, control & command is the biggest factor (health aside) is determining whether you reach it.

    With Bailey & Volquez, there seems to be nearly even odds on whether or not they ever break the fringe starter ceiling. Cueto seems to have a clear path to that #2/#3 starter level of effectiveness. I think both Tim Hudson and Roy Oswalt have shown that smaller pitchers can remain effective. Surely they will grow less productive over time, as all players do, but the idea that a few seasons will wear him down seems to be laregly unfounded.

    Until Homer and Volquez reign in their stuff, I see nothing but Kyle Lohsesque careers.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Youngest guy? Bailey.
    Best stuff? Bailey.

    Makes it an easy pick for me. Cueto would go next, then Volquez.

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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Mo had the Texas beat writer on his show today and he said Volquez was Texas minor league pitcher of the year 3 years in a row, he was clearly their top prospect. I was torn between him and Bailey but I went with Volquez.

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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    This is a very tough question, but also a very good one.

    I love all three of these guys. I think all three could be special, top of the rotation guys. Each of them have great stuff but I picked Johnny Cueto because his stuff is the most refined of the three at this point. He doesn't necessarily have the highest ceiling of the three, but he is a guy who will step right in and contribute to the Reds because of his great control and stuff. The other two may take a little time to reach their ceilings due to shaky command, though I see all three of them being great major league pitchers, it's just that I think Cueto gets there quicker.

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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Cueto. Stuff, command, velo. He's got it all. His size doesn't bother me, as his results speak for themselves.
    Agreed...the Dodgers first put Pedro Martinez in the bullpen and then traded him for a second baseman because they felt he was too small. Oswalt and Santana are not much bigger.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    The Reds haven't produced a home-grown starter in two decades. Smart money is on nobody bucking that trend -- and, if they do, not being very good.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    Not exactly going out on a limb here, but...

    I predict that Homer Bailey will have the brightest burn, but it'll likely be for a couple seasons with his second or third team.

    I predict that Johnny Cueto will have the best overall career as a consistent #2 to solid #3 Starter.

    I predict that Edinson Volquez is the most likely of the three to flame out as a starter and to bounce around as a somewhat frustrating decent middle reliever. Reminds me of a little chunkier, more HR-prone version of Juan Cruz.
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    Re: Which of the Big Three will have the best big league career?

    I'm glad to see Volquez starting to get some more votes. I considered choosing him but I thought it over and decided to go with Cueto. I think all three are going to develop into great pitchers within a couple years, forming the best Reds rotation in decades.


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