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    I have just declared myself the new GM...

    what do I do to start the new year out right?

    1. I revisit the Bedard trade, I offer Votto and Cueto and another prospect but not Bailey or Bruce. I stick to my guns because they have over priced him and they know it. I also demand a window to sign him to a LTC which I get done.

    2. Now I sign Estrada to be my starting Catcher. I trade Ross for a prospect.

    3. I sign Dunn to a LTC.

    4. I sign Ensberg to play 1B and use Hatteburg as a PHer.

    That would get us ready for the season.

    Rotation of
    Harang
    Bedard
    Arroyo
    Belisle
    Bailey or Volquez

    Cordero Cl
    Weathers
    Burton
    Bray
    Volquez if not SP
    Coffey (on a short string)
    Livingston

    Starting Lineup
    Bruce CF
    Estrada C
    Phiilips 2B
    Griffey RF
    Dunn LF
    EE 3B
    Ensberg 1B (sure hate to lose Votto but worth the sacrifice)
    Gonzo SS

    Bench
    Keppinger INF
    Valentin C
    Hatteburg 1B
    Hopper OF
    Freel OF-INF

    I would give Freel a shot at 2B and consideer moving Philips to SS if Freel could beat out Gonzo. That would give us a true leadoff hitter! Hopper could spell all 3 OFs!

    JMHO

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    Why are some so quick to get rid of Ross. He's spectacular behind the plate, great arm, pitchers love him, and has some pop in his bat. I'd much rather have Ross than Estrada.


    Ensberg to play 1b? Doesn't he play 3b? Hatteberg hits much better even though he is a lefty, + Ensberg did terrible last year..although he would do better at GABP.
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    Just adding a RH bat and hoping GABP brings back the power he lost. I want Estrada's average in the lineup.

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    Re: I have just declared myself the new GM...

    well,

    I would just have to say that you can't justify moving Phillips to SS because that would sacrifice his fielding, and our defense would be even worse. The idea gets really stupid when you think about playing Freel over Gonzalez, when Gonzalez was the better hitter last year. Second, David Ross's 2007 WARP was 3.2, while Estrada's was 1.5 in more than 100 more abouts. It's simple: Ross isn't that bad, and is much better than Estrada. Estrada is terrible defensively. When you consider Ross should bounce back some, it's not even close...
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    can't bat phillips 3rd either, he makes too many outs. i agree with you that Ensberg/Hatteberg (wow thats "bergy", couldn't resist) could be a nice little platoon...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    well,

    I would just have to say that you can't justify moving Phillips to SS because that would sacrifice his fielding, and our defense would be even worse. The idea gets really stupid when you think about playing Freel over Gonzalez, when Gonzalez was the better hitter last year.
    I've never understood what we would sacrifice in Phillip's fielding by moving him back to SS. He's played more of his professional career at SS than he has at 2B (5.5 yrs. vs 3.5 yrs.) and showed interest in moving back to his original position late in 2006 before they picked up Gonzalez. I've never heard that he was moved to second because of fielding deficiencies or lack of tools to play the position. I've always assumed it was because he had others in front of him, Vizquel and Peralta in Cleveland, and then the Reds had Lopez coming off his great season here, and then they picked up Gonzalez.

    Gonzalez did not do much to impress me at SS last season, and I believe that anyone who thinks that he will continue to hit like he did last year, a career best season for him, will more than likely be disappointed very soon. I like the idea of moving Phillips back to SS, trying to find a deal to improve elsewhere by dealing Gonzalez and his 4M/yr contract, and trying Keppinger out at 2B fulltime. I think the offensive gain of Keppinger over Gonzalez would exceed the defensive dropoff, if any.
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    Re: I have just declared myself the new GM...

    Defense up the middle is almost more essential to winning than good pitching. You never, ever, ever, want to downgrade your defense for any reason.

    A good batter will get a hit once every six games more than a bad one, but a good fielding SS or 2B will make a good play more than a bad one, almost every game.

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    Re: I have just declared myself the new GM...

    Also, if I had just declared myself the Reds new GM, I wouldn't post it on any Reds forum. Wayne Krivsky might find out about it and get mad.

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    I like the idea of signing Ensberg as rh bat off the bench and play some first on occasionally. I am really not sure how Dusty will handle the first base spot with Votto/Hatt and when a lefty pitches.
    And I am not a big Ross fan either.

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    Re: I have just declared myself the new GM...

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Also, if I had just declared myself the Reds new GM, I wouldn't post it on any Reds forum. Wayne Krivsky might find out about it and get mad.
    WK will just have to get over it, ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocko View Post
    I like the idea of signing Ensberg as rh bat off the bench and play some first on occasionally. I am really not sure how Dusty will handle the first base spot with Votto/Hatt and when a lefty pitches.
    And I am not a big Ross fan either.
    Of course if we keep Votto I hope he starts at 1B, I think he will be the real deal.

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    Re: I have just declared myself the new GM...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigredfan#1 View Post
    Of course if we keep Votto I hope he starts at 1B, I think he will be the real deal.
    I have been a big Votto fan and agree he can be the real deal.
    Just saying I am not sure if Dusty will declare it open competition between him and Hatt or if starts Votto, what he will do when we face our first lefty.
    Most may not agree but if it was Hamilton/Votto in a trade, I was hoping it would be Hamilton.

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    1. If that will land Bedard I would be for it. I expect the Orioles will hold out for 3 top prospects however.

    2. I considered signing Estrada, but I hear he plays bad defense and is bad at throwing runners out.

    3. Get the LTC done already.

    4. Morgan Ensberg is not the player he was 2 years ago.

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    Re: I have just declared myself the new GM...

    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    4. Morgan Ensberg is not the player he was 2 years ago.
    That is exactly why the reds could sign him. Not to start but maybe add a little rh bat with some pop off bench.

    Bottom of 9th , score tied at 4 and runners at first and second, two outs.
    In the on deck circle preparing to come to plate to PH is Juan Castro....No wait...that is ensberg with a bat as Dusty calls Castro back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomd63 View Post
    I've never understood what we would sacrifice in Phillip's fielding by moving him back to SS. He's played more of his professional career at SS than he has at 2B (5.5 yrs. vs 3.5 yrs.) and showed interest in moving back to his original position late in 2006 before they picked up Gonzalez. I've never heard that he was moved to second because of fielding deficiencies or lack of tools to play the position. I've always assumed it was because he had others in front of him, Vizquel and Peralta in Cleveland, and then the Reds had Lopez coming off his great season here, and then they picked up Gonzalez.

    Gonzalez did not do much to impress me at SS last season, and I believe that anyone who thinks that he will continue to hit like he did last year, a career best season for him, will more than likely be disappointed very soon. I like the idea of moving Phillips back to SS, trying to find a deal to improve elsewhere by dealing Gonzalez and his 4M/yr contract, and trying Keppinger out at 2B fulltime. I think the offensive gain of Keppinger over Gonzalez would exceed the defensive dropoff, if any.
    shortstop is a more challenging defensive position, and therefore phillips would not be as far above average defensively playing SS over 2B. As for Gonzalez declining defensively and offensively, which would you rather have: Phillips at SS and Freel at 2B or Gonzalez at SS and Phillips at 2B?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."


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