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    Palmer and others complained about the poor quality of the team's grass practice field and the lack of a covered facility for when the weather turns nasty.

    When the Bengals moved into Paul Brown Stadium before the 2000 season, ownership had the option of covering a practice field at its expense. There is still no covered field, which is a drawback in recruiting free agents.
    And that my firends is Mike Brown in a nutshell. As long as he's in charge, the Bengals will never be serious contenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    And that my firends is Mike Brown in a nutshell. As long as he's in charge, the Bengals will never be serious contenders.
    Mike Brown is such an idiot. Talk about missing the forest for all of the trees. Managing a billion-dollar enterprise like a mom and pop outfit. Pathetic.
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    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    And that my firends is Mike Brown in a nutshell. As long as he's in charge, the Bengals will never be serious contenders.
    OTOH, I think that's kind of a weenie excuse by Carson Palmer.

    "Our practice field sucks because it's outside."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    OTOH, I think that's kind of a weenie excuse by Carson Palmer.

    "Our practice field sucks because it's outside."

    Please.

    How did you get that it was an excuse? We don't know the context to which he actually brought it up. I'm sure it was a sore point for a lot of the players on the team, and reporters know this. I'd be surprised if any comments he made about it weren't in direct response to a question about the practice facilities. I highly doubt he just volunteered that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    OTOH, I think that's kind of a weenie excuse by Carson Palmer.

    "Our practice field sucks because it's outside."

    Please.
    Why is it an excuse? Most colleges have great indoor practice facilities. Mike Brown again isn't living up to his job and doing what is best for the franchise. Carson knows what free agents and players want.

    I hate hearing people like Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown talk about changing the culture of the team. Those guys have done nothing to change their outdated style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Why is it an excuse? Most colleges have great indoor practice facilities. Mike Brown again isn't living up to his job and doing what is best for the franchise. Carson knows what free agents and players want.

    I hate hearing people like Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown talk about changing the culture of the team. Those guys have done nothing to change their outdated style.
    Good points. The only good thing Marvin did was to draft Palmer, and any idiot could do that. I have to give him kudos for getting rid of Dillon though. Still, he stumbled upon a great young team, and has yet to prove himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoReds33 View Post
    Still, he stumbled upon a great young team, and has yet to prove himself.
    They were able to draft Palmer because they were 2-14 and the league's laughingstock when he arrived. Yea, some great young team...they were just getting ready to bust out.

    You would have to be assuming that no one around here has been paying attention to the Bengals for the last 15 years to get that one by unchallenged.

    Marvin has proven that he can build a respectable football team. What he hasn't proven is that he can build a powerhouse, which is the goal I'm assuming he and any Bengals fan wants accomplished. As I've been saying throughout the season, this is the pivotal offseason for Marvin's career with the Bengals. He must do some soul searching on what he wants the next five years to look like and go about the business of putting the personnel in place to accomplish building that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Why is it an excuse? Most colleges have great indoor practice facilities. Mike Brown again isn't living up to his job and doing what is best for the franchise. Carson knows what free agents and players want.
    Maybe. But, then again, they play all 8 home games outdoors and all 3 divisional road games outdoors as well, so I don't see the problem practicing outdoors.

    I'd think that an indoor practice facility would mean MUCH more to a college team than it would an NFL team for recruiting purposes. In the NFL, they simplify recruiting by just offering more money.

    Maybe I'm ignorant about the NFL Free Agent process -- seeing as how I've never been an NFL Free Agent -- but I think "indoor practice facility" would rank lower on the list than things like guaranteed money, promise of playing time, coaching staff, and current ability of the signing team to win. I don't foresee a lot of situations where a player says: "Well, Tennessee is offering more money and Jeff Fisher really wants me to be his go-to back, but dammit if Cincinnati's indoor practice facility isn't spiffy."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Maybe I'm ignorant about the NFL Free Agent process -- seeing as how I've never been an NFL Free Agent -- but I think "indoor practice facility" would rank lower on the list than things like guaranteed money, promise of playing time, coaching staff, and current ability of the signing team to win. I don't foresee a lot of situations where a player says: "Well, Tennessee is offering more money and Jeff Fisher really wants me to be his go-to back, but dammit if Cincinnati's indoor practice facility isn't spiffy."
    It's a signal to potential employees of the overall quality of an organization. By itself it doesn't mean a whole lot. As one piece of the overall Mike Brown portfolio, it means a little more. How many cold weather organizations don't have an indoor practice facility. That's the question that should be answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    Why is it an excuse? Most colleges have great indoor practice facilities. Mike Brown again isn't living up to his job and doing what is best for the franchise. Carson knows what free agents and players want.
    Really? I am curious what makes you think that this is so.
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    "I'm very pleased with what our coaches have done this year," Lewis said.
    There aren't enough rolleyes in the entire internet to convey how I feel about this statement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    "A lot of guys weren't attuned to winning," safety Dexter Jackson said. "They were attuned to getting a certain amount of yards or a certain amount of this instead of winning the game."
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    You'd think he pony up for the covered practice field, he got a half billion dollar stadium for pretty much nothing thanks to wonderful Bob Beddinghaus screwing over the tax payers of Hamilton county.

    If they aren't on the phone to Rex Ryan right now there is no hope for them. Ole Chuck better be packing his bags too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds4Life View Post
    You'd think he pony up for the covered practice field, he got a half billion dollar stadium for pretty much nothing thanks to wonderful Bob Beddinghaus screwing over the tax payers of Hamilton county.

    If they aren't on the phone to Rex Ryan right now there is no hope for them. Ole Chuck better be packing his bags too.
    Not to mention the Bearcats need one as well. It seems to me they'd be a natural fit to go halfsies on an indoor facility.
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