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    Jim Callis Espn Chat

    He just said they ranked the organizations farm systems already for the handbook and he gave the top 5: 1. Rays
    2. Red Sox
    3. Reds
    4. Rangers
    5. Yankees

    Interesting that the Reds are the only NL team in the top 5.

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    It must really stink to be an Orioles or Blue Jays fan. I would be so depressed if I had to beat the Yankees or Sox to make the playoffs.

    It would be interesting to see how the list would look if you ignore the top 5 prospects in each system. The ongoing prospect poll shows me that we've got about twice as many "legitimate" prospects than we had just a few years back.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Jim Callis Espn Chat

    Yes, Callis also said in the chat that you have to high ceiling talent and depth to rank high on the list.

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    Good. BA rankings help GMs to explain their trades to the sportswriters and ultimately to the fanbase.

    congratulations to the Reds. Now, trade a lot of these guys away and get better.

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    Re: Jim Callis Espn Chat

    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    Good. BA rankings help GMs to explain their trades to the sportswriters and ultimately to the fanbase.

    congratulations to the Reds. Now, trade a lot of these guys away and get better.
    If Wayne=Terry Ryan than I think we have a mixed bag. Minnesota turned around their franchise by playing youngsters and also knowing when to get rid of them (AJ). Not really anything novel, hopefully Krivsky has that same knack.

    Hopefully Wayne gets rid of the only flaw I saw with Terry Ryan. Refusing to take risks with position players. And that Juan Castro thing.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Jim Callis Espn Chat

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    If Wayne=Terry Ryan than I think we have a mixed bag. Minnesota turned around their franchise by playing youngsters and also knowing when to get rid of them (AJ). Not really anything novel, hopefully Krivsky has that same knack.

    Hopefully Wayne gets rid of the only flaw I saw with Terry Ryan. Refusing to take risks with position players. And that Juan Castro thing.
    What kind of risks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo View Post
    What kind of risks?
    I love Terry Ryan so I'm not bashing him overall. Look at his track record though and he has at times been guilty of either holding onto field prospects too long, or not playing them soon enough. He was extra cautious with field prospects later in his career and I think that hampered the Twins at times.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Fever View Post
    Yes, Callis also said in the chat that you have to high ceiling talent and depth to rank high on the list.
    As well as having a team nickname that starts with R

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Fever View Post
    Yes, Callis also said in the chat that you have to high ceiling talent and depth to rank high on the list.
    Though I am curious how the system will be ranked next year if the top 4 are not eligible. While there may be depth, I'm curious as to how high the ceilings are after the big names. I don't think things are as rosy.

    A lot can happen this season, hopefully most guys in the 2nd tier keep improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    I am curious how the system will be ranked next year if the top 4 are not eligible.

    I'm not. We'll drop.

    if 2 or 3 pitchers establish themselves as effective major leaguers even as we drop, it's a price that I'm thrilled to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    I'm not. We'll drop.

    if 2 or 3 pitchers establish themselves as effective major leaguers even as we drop, it's a price that I'm thrilled to pay.
    I agree 100%.

    I would love Cueto, Bailey, Volquez, and Maloney all turn out to be proven Major Leaguers 6 years from now but hell, I would take 2 of 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prf15 View Post
    I agree 100%.

    I would love Cueto, Bailey, Volquez, and Maloney all turn out to be proven Major Leaguers 6 years from now but hell, I would take 2 of 4.
    I think you will not have a problem seeing at the very least 2 of them be solid contributors to the major league team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prf15 View Post
    I agree 100%.

    I would love Cueto, Bailey, Volquez, and Maloney all turn out to be proven Major Leaguers 6 years from now but hell, I would take 2 of 4.
    agreed.

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    Re: Jim Callis Espn Chat

    Now, trade a lot of these guys away
    Some, not a lot -- you have to have the young talent infusing the major league club too.

    Keep some, trade some. If you gut it, you waste it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Some, not a lot -- you have to have the young talent infusing the major league club too.

    Keep some, trade some. If you gut it, you waste it.
    Rays and Brewers and Pirates sat on theirs, managed to get mediocre or to stay dreadful.

    trust your depth. Deal from off the top. Don't sit around and wait for the Yugos to come off the line.


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