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    Reds sign Andy Phillips, claim outfielder Jeff Fiorentino off waivers

    Reds sign IF Phillips

    January 4, 2008
    CINCINNATI (Ticker) - The Cincinnati Reds on Friday signed infielder Andy Phillips to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.

    Phillips hit .292 with two home runs and 25 RBI in 61 games last season while part of the New York Yankees' platoon at first base, but he failed to earn regular starts. Phillips also appeared at second and third base.

    Phillips has a career batting average of .253 with 11 home runs and 60 RBI in 203 career games, all with the Yankees between 2004 and 2007.

    Also Friday, the Reds claimed outfielder Jeff Fiorentino off waivers from Baltimore, and signed righthander Jim Brower, infielders Jolbert Cabrera and Andy Green, and lefthander Adam Pettyjohn to minor league deals with invitations to spring training.
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    Re: Reds sign Andy Phillips

    interesting couple of moves, not exciting but surely kinda interesting

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    I really like the Phillip's signing. He could be a nice RH bat off the bench, and can provide some nice defense. He could also be a late inning defensive replacement for Votto. If he makes the team, it could mean the end of Castro's playing career.

    The other guys seem like the usual non roster invitees. A has been (Brower), two veteran minor leaguers who were once highly thought of (Cabrera and Pettyjohn), and an all glove, not hit infielder.

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    The ordinary "take a chance" kind of moves. These kinds of moves have a low risk / good return opportunity. Besides that, the last guy Krivsky brought on board named Phillips turned out rather well!!! Curious to see if Brower has anything to offer; bullpen wise.

    I'm still hoping to see an announcement of Bartolo Colon or Livan Hernandez signing by the Reds any day now. No info, just hoping. Same with a Reds signing of Mike Cameron. I hope it will happen. We can definitely use two of the just named three this season.

    Here's Andy Phillips' player profile:
    http://www.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425429
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    The part that doesn't make sense is why they would pick up Phillips as a "right handed hitter off the bench" It's just a minor league deal, but it still is a waste of money.

    His lifetime line against LHP is
    .217 / .255 / .289 / .544
    Isn't it great to have a .544 OPS coming off the bench? Castro's .586 OPS is a better option.

    Not only are his numbers pathetic, but he's a 1B. He hits worse than one of the worst hitting shortstops in baseball, and it's at the position that requires the most hitting value.
    It's not like he's young and has a chance to breakout since he's 31.

    The Marlins got Cantu in a minor league deal, while the Reds just let him walk. It's fine releasing him, (which I didn't like), but if you can get him back for a minor league deal, do it. You don't get an inferior player for the same cost just so you don't have to admit to making a mistake. What's worse is thinking he's a "Right handed bat" when he hits right handed pitching much better (.741 OPS).

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    Re: Reds sign Andy Phillips

    Hey, could be worse....they could've signed STEVE Phillips.
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    Steve Phillips would have been a much better signing

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    Steve Phillips would have been a much better signing
    Funniest post ever

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    He Would. Just give him a title to make him think he's important so then he's off ESPN

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    He Would. Just give him a title to make him think he's important so then he's off ESPN
    I see what you did there

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    The part that doesn't make sense is why they would pick up Phillips as a "right handed hitter off the bench" It's just a minor league deal, but it still is a waste of money.

    His lifetime line against LHP is
    .217 / .255 / .289 / .544
    Isn't it great to have a .544 OPS coming off the bench? Castro's .586 OPS is a better option.

    Not only are his numbers pathetic, but he's a 1B. He hits worse than one of the worst hitting shortstops in baseball, and it's at the position that requires the most hitting value.
    It's not like he's young and has a chance to breakout since he's 31.

    The Marlins got Cantu in a minor league deal, while the Reds just let him walk. It's fine releasing him, (which I didn't like), but if you can get him back for a minor league deal, do it. You don't get an inferior player for the same cost just so you don't have to admit to making a mistake. What's worse is thinking he's a "Right handed bat" when he hits right handed pitching much better (.741 OPS).
    Agree that I would rather have Cantu, but Cantu was due around $2-3M in arbitration this year. That is why the Reds let him go. I think he was worth it but it is not my money. The Reds could not sign him until May 1.

    Yeah, Phillips stats as a Yankee are not impressive, but he put up very impressive power numbers in the minors, especially against lefties. He was known as a lefty killer in the minors. He hit .434 against lefties in the first half of 2005 and close to half of his hits against lefties were for extra bases. Here is an article about him.

    http://yankees.scout.com/2/412443.html

    Hard to explain why he was so bad against lefties in the majors, but it might have to do with not seeing that many. Only 152 AB's in four years. He also just could be a AAAA hitter.

    He also is not a first baseman by trade. He was drafted as a SS, but has played mostly 2B and 3B in the minors. Was considered a top Yankee prospect for years, but never reached his potential. Was very popular with fans and teammates. Everyone loved his attitude and defense. He also was known as a clubhouse leader and a great fielder.

    Considering it was a minor league deal, it was a good signing.

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    Re: Reds sign Andy Phillips

    That May 1st Rule doesn't exist anymore. It was changed last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    That May 1st Rule doesn't exist anymore. It was changed last year
    Then not resigning Cantu makes no sense. I don't care how bad his defense is. No reason not to sign him to the same contract that the Marlins did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    He Would. Just give him a title to make him think he's important so then he's off ESPN
    You know you love the mock GM press conferences.






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    I'm still holding out for Kevin Mench for the designated RH bat.
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