I think a .300/.370/.435 is reasonable for Cabrera. That sounds good with some great CF defense for cheap!
I think a .300/.370/.435 is reasonable for Cabrera. That sounds good with some great CF defense for cheap!
Whos going to provide the great CF D?
Also I dont think reasonable is the correct term. Maybe more like unreasonable
Originally Posted by Bip Roberts
ZiPS seems to pretty much agree. He's only 23 so there is still room for improvement...Name P Age AVG OBP SLG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS
Melky Cabrera# cf 23 .286 .352 .419 159 580 83 166 29 6 12 89 59 65 13 4
If that was reasonable for Cabrera, he wouldn't be on the market. I don't think he can ever put up that line, even in GABP. And his defense is indefensible.
Pathei mathos...
28 FRAR?If that was reasonable for Cabrera, he wouldn't be on the market. I don't think he can ever put up that line, even in GABP. And his defense is indefensible.
That means that according to one defensive metric he was average to slightly-above-average in the Yankees 2007 CF. FWIW, he hasn't faired nearly as well in LF and RF (though with an admittedly small sample size in RF).
Pathei mathos...
I said average. Replacement is different than average.
He's never even hit above .280 and his lifetime mark is .275
He's never had a season above .360 OBP and his lifetime is .340 SLG
He's never hit above .400 SLG and has a lifetime .388 SLG
Are you going to say that you reasonably think he can outperform everything he's ever done. His SLG has been exactly .391 each season. He also declined in OBP by .033 last year. What makes him suddenly do his best ever in everything he does.
Also his CF range is not above avg for a CF. To think he's a great CF is just wrong. His arm is above avg tho.
He's a .280/.340/.400 hitter and with avg CF defense.
He's just an average player
I tend to want to stay away from Yankee-hyped players. The Reds have had a few deals with the Yankees over the last 20 years and the only one I can think of that turned out well for the Reds was getting Hal Morris. Brandon Claussen busted in the Aaron Boone trade. Paul O'Neill for Roberto (call me Bobby) Kelly was really bad for us considering what O'Neill did for the Yanks. There were many minor trades and I'd prefer not to deal with the Yankees. Bad karma.
I wouldn't see this happening now that Cameron is going to Milwaukee. I would've liked to have seen the Reds acquire Melky Cabrera. Well, at least Krivsky got Jolbert Cabrera. Better than no Cabrera at all...
So he can't improve at age 23? He can't return to the patience at the plate he displayed in 2006? He can't hit better in the National League Central? He can't hit for more power in GABP? He can't get a bit luckier next year (.295 BABIP, 19.7 LD%)?
In his first year of extended action-2006- .280/.360/.391 in 524 PA. So I say he improves his contact to become a .300 hitter, which naturally brings him up to at least a .370 OBP, and then he slugs .435 because of the raised avg and he now calls GABP home instead of Yankee Stadium... thats unreasonable???
Yes hes never hit any of those marks in his career ever and he doesnt play great D, hes got a strong arm though
I wonder if the Yankees will still trade Cabrera now that they lost Cameron to the Brewers.
Only if they took Stanton and Castro too
I've never understood the hype around Cabrera. Not at all.
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