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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    At the least, certain posters do...

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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Put it this way, the Reds are paying for the likelihood that Affeldt will be able to improve their overall pitching staff, whether it be as a swingman or short lefty stints out of the bullpen. The probability of that occurring is, in my opinion, little better than 50/50, but you have to pay something to even get that.
    Lets get specific about why the Reds apparently signed him. They seem to be paying for the notion that he will start from the #3 slot in the rotation. Initial reports certainly don't suggest that he was brought in for depth but rather he was brought in to fill a "need" they decided they had to fill (i.e. a lefty to break up all of the righties). It's classic create a round hole then jam a square peg into it....

    In that light, appropriately critiquing the signing takes on a whole new tenor I think....

    Would an all righty rotation represent a flawed roster? Probably. But why willingly make yourself worse by trying to cover a flaw? I prefer a rotation filled with the guys who have the best chance to succeed.
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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Is it fair to say that if he was brought in as a bull-pen guy then most people are happy with the move in light of (1) the state of the Reds bullpen and (2) the 1 year deal? Not a move to launch them into contention, but an incremental improvement type of move where you take innings away from a horrable pitcher and give them to a so-so pitcher.

    Whereas if he's slotted to be a starter the enthusiasm for the deal goes way down.
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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN CHAR NC View Post
    This thread needs a "negative" warning message.
    I can't speak for the other Mod's - but the line here is getting pretty blurred, IMO.

    Stay on topic and play nice.

    I'm concerned with the direction of the thread - it's starting to sound like most threads around here.
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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Lets get specific about why the Reds apparently signed him. They seem to be paying for the notion that he will start from the #3 slot in the rotation. Initial reports certainly don't suggest that he was brought in for depth but rather he was brought in to fill a "need" they decided they had to fill (i.e. a lefty to break up all of the righties). It's classic create a round hole then jam a square peg into it....

    In that light, appropriately critiquing the signing takes on a whole new tenor I think....

    Would an all righty rotation represent a flawed roster? Probably. But why willingly make yourself worse by trying to cover a flaw? I prefer a rotation filled with the guys who have the best chance to succeed.
    And the reds came out and said that?

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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Is it fair to say that if he was brought in as a bull-pen guy then most people are happy with the move in light of (1) the state of the Reds bullpen and (2) the 1 year deal? Not a move to launch them into contention, but an incremental improvement type of move.

    Whereas if he's slotted to be a starter the enthusiasm for the deal goes way down.
    That's the vibe I get after reading the thread.

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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    The team was lucky to win 72 last year.

    1) Have they gotten significantly better this winter?

    2) Who do you see as having a good chance to materially perform better than last year?

    3) Same as #2, but regressing instead of improving?
    While they're longshots for '08 IMHO, I think there are a lot of reasons to be excited as a Reds fan right now.
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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Any thread where a poster who contanstly carps about a loosing team suddenly advocates Tom Schearn in the starting rotation just to crap on a Wayne move should get a "lack of any real discussion" warning.
    Anyone who thinks that a situational left-handed reliever being discussed as a potential starter is a good idea needs a reality check.

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    Re: Reds acquire lefty, Jeremy Affeldt ...

    And anyone who can't read a simple warning from a moderator asking nicely to play nice doesn't deserve to continue discussions.

    People, this is getting old. Go outside and have a snowball fight.
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