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    Duke Energy...

    I just paid my first Duke Energy bill since I moved south of Dayton, and I have to say that I'm flabbergasted. I didn't use any more electricity than I normally do over the last month...in fact, I've used less because I don't have lamps here, and it cost me $78 more than the average I spent per month up north.

    Why is electricity so high down here? I mean...it's electricity...

    Someone please educate me.
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    That almost seems criminal...
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    Do you pay your heat, sava? If so, that's got to be it. I'm don't pay for heat and my energy bill is always $25-30 a month. Unless you have a huge place or are expending a huge amount of electricity somehow, I really can't think of anything else. Corporate misplay notwithstanding -- it's not enough to make that big a difference.

    Heating is very expensive everywhere at the moment. Tough to accept but I think that's par for the course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    Do you pay your heat, sava? If so, that's got to be it. I'm don't pay for heat and my energy bill is always $25-30 a month. Unless you have a huge place or are expending a huge amount of electricity somehow, I really can't think of anything else. Corporate misplay notwithstanding -- it's not enough to make that big a difference.

    Heating is very expensive everywhere at the moment. Tough to accept but I think that's par for the course.
    Especially if you have electric heat, which I feel is more inefficient than gas, based on how poorly electric heat works in my house. In vents furthest from my furnace, the air blows cool and my fairly new hot water heater heats runs out of hot water fairly quickly in the winter.
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    I do pay for heat, but I've always paid for heat...
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    My bills are all over the place the last year, and we're left scratching our heads pretty often. I pay close to $300 a month in the winter for just the first floor of a home, and the thermostat doesn't go above 68 (gas) and is often lower. It's our electricity here that's killing us. It's like paying another mortgage or rent every month.

    Privatizing energy to the extent they have, is something I was never a fan of. It's not as if it's a service industry. You turn it on, you turn it off, you fix it where applicable. I don't need friendly customer service, just maintain the grids and keep my costs reasonable, and I conserve as much as possible.

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    Whoever figures out how they charge for energy will have an inside track on figuring out airline prices.

    We have a 2100sq tri-level, all electric and we keep it between 68 and 72F depending on our mood. We've never had a bill above $200. Most bills range between $100 and $140 per month. In the in-between months we have bills as low as $60ish.

    And we don't do anything to conserve electricity beyond turning the lights off when we aren't in a room and keeping the vents closed in unused rooms. Otherwise we keep it warm in the winter and cold in the summer. (The house, however, is very well insolated, is sealed off very well and has new or newer sub-systems like furnace, heatpump and windows.)

    Meanwhile, I know friends who have simular sized homes who go out of their way to conserve, keep the temps cool in the winter and warm in the Summer, etc etc. And they pay LOTS more than we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I just paid my first Duke Energy bill since I moved south of Dayton, and I have to say that I'm flabbergasted. I didn't use any more electricity than I normally do over the last month...in fact, I've used less because I don't have lamps here, and it cost me $78 more than the average I spent per month up north.

    Why is electricity so high down here? I mean...it's electricity...

    Someone please educate me.
    After my post I got to thinking, how does the insolation and windows in the new home compare to the old one? Did you have a home inspection...if so, what is the depth of the insolation in the attic? That can make a huge difference. Also, how old and ineffecient is the furnace/heating system.

    I have spent a lot of time adding to the insolation and caulking every little hole I can find on the exterior of the home. We have cedar siding and I put that spray foam underneath the last piece of siding that overlaps the brick on the 1st story to seal it off.

    Also, our windows are relativley new and our furnace and heat pump is only a year or two old. That can make a huge difference. Old furnances, even if working properally can be less effecient (a.k.a. More Expensive) than newer systems.

    In the wintertime I put up heavy plastic pannels on the inside of the screened-in porch. This keeps the wind from blowing directly against the bedroom (the porch is off the master bedroom) and keeps the porch a few degrees warmer. That, in turn, keeps that room a little warmer. Also, I put the same very heavy plastic over the sliding glass door from the master bedroom to the porch. That helps a lot as sliding glass doors are not much better than a bedsheet for sealing off a room.

    Mrs. Ltlabner also made very heavy curtians (heavy as in very thick) for the inside of the sliding glass door in the bedroom, and over the bay window in the living room. Those help to keep drafts out and, again, create an insilating pocket.

    While I agree the price of energy is a mystery (see my previous post) you may want to explore your new home, compare it to the old one and evaluate whether you've done all you can to improve effeciency before just dumping it on corporate shenagins.
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    Re: Duke Energy...

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I do pay for heat, but I've always paid for heat...
    Well, the cost of heat keeps going up. Welcome to centralized resources, my friend

    Seriously, heat costs have increased even further this winter from what I understand, and we're in the middle of some pretty bitter cold. If you still don't think that can account for the disparity in costs, it is worth checking out your place of living (are you in a basement apartment where you're inadvertently paying for the laundry room electricity? Are there appliances that you're leaving running for too long?)

    You also need to check out the line items of your bill. You say that you recently moved. There's a strong possibility that you had to put down a deposit that will be spread out over the next couple of bills. Obviously, you'll get that back someday, but it will inflate your bill for a couple of months.

    Beyond that, I think it's just the cost of living these days, though. I've dealt with numerous energy suppliers in my adult lifetime, and really for someone in my situation -- smallish rented dwelling etc., which I presume is close to your situation -- there aren't many differences apart from universal cost increases.
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    Re: Duke Energy...

    Your bill should tell you how much you are paying per unit. The first thing I'd do is compare your current bill to one of your old ones to see if you are paying the same unit cost. that'll tell you whether you are really being charged more or whether you are for some reason (more space, worse insulation, worse weather etc) you are just using more energy. Comparing the total price of a month of service really isn;t going to to tell you anything meaningful without digging into the details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    There's a strong possibility that you had to put down a deposit that will be spread out over the next couple of bills.
    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    Your bill should tell you how much you are paying per unit. The first thing I'd do is compare your current bill to one of your old ones to see if you are paying the same unit cost...


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    Re: Duke Energy...

    The problem is located in the thread title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I just paid my first Duke Energy bill since I moved south of Dayton, and I have to say that I'm flabbergasted. I didn't use any more electricity than I normally do over the last month...in fact, I've used less because I don't have lamps here, and it cost me $78 more than the average I spent per month up north.

    Why is electricity so high down here? I mean...it's electricity...

    Someone please educate me.
    Agreed. I just moved to Cincinnati recently from Dayton, as well, and noticed that my Duke Energy bill was significantly higher than what I was paying DP&L. Of course, my place in Dayton was quite smaller, and the apt complex paid for heat, so my monthly bill was roughly $20-25. So I really had no clue what to expect from Duke. The only real surprise was the $80 deposit. Wasn't expecting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Agreed. I just moved to Cincinnati recently from Dayton, as well, and noticed that my Duke Energy bill was significantly higher than what I was paying DP&L. Of course, my place in Dayton was quite smaller, and the apt complex paid for heat, so my monthly bill was roughly $20-25. So I really had no clue what to expect from Duke. The only real surprise was the $80 deposit. Wasn't expecting that.
    They didn't make me put down a deposit.

    I used roughly close to the same amount of kWh as last winter. The difference is that with DP&L I was paying .0386 cents per unit while with Duke I'm paying .0764 cents per unit.
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