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    You're soaking in it! MartyFan's Avatar
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    Cost to Wins

    This blog is pretty interesting. Shows how teams perform +/- on their spending over the last 4 years.

    The top dog in the game has been the Padres...the team following them through that time period was the St. Louis Cardinals who were led by a man named Walt who now is under theemploy of OUR Cincinnati reds.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: Cost to Wins

    wow thats pretty interesting. id like to see straight dollar per win counts too...
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    Score Early, Score Often gonelong's Avatar
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    Re: Cost to Wins

    On a historical basis, even bad teams generally win 60 or so games.

    To me the questions is what part does money play in getting you above the worst team in the league?

    2007 Wins	90	84	85	72	90	71	73	82	83	88	89	68	89	71	78	73
    2007 Payroll	52.0	89.5	99.9	69.7	54.4	30.5	87.8	108.7	78.0	116.1	89.4	38.6	58.2	90.5	90.3	37.3
    $/W > 68 W	0.61	0.61	3.61	7.78	0.72	-2.70	9.84	5.01	2.63	3.88	2.42	-	0.93	17.30	5.17	-0.26
    $/W > 82 W	0.00	18.75	15.97	-	0.30	-	-	-	26.00	10.68	5.34	-	0.89	-	-	-

    * First line is 2007 Ws
    * Second line is 2007 payroll in Millions (rounded)

    Pittsburg was able to put up 68 Ws with a 38.6 M payroll in 2007.

    * 3rd line is: ( (Team Payroll - Pitts Payroll) / (Team Ws - Pits Ws) )
    • I think this tells me, is how much does it cost a team per win to be better than the worst team in the league.

    * 4th line is: ( (Team Payroll - Lowest Payroll team to win 82 games) / (Team Ws - 82) )
    • How efficient am I against teams that even remotely matter?

    Obviously some teams don't even register in the last list ... basically teams that factor into the playoffs. I don't think it does you any good to measure yourself against anyone but the successful teams. Being efficiently bad or mediocre is nothing to be proud of for a MLB franchise IMO.

    If I get more time I might try to run this for the same period as the blog and compare them.

    Last edited by gonelong; 01-23-2008 at 12:24 PM.

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    Re: Cost to Wins

    Quote Originally Posted by gonelong View Post
    On a historical basis, even bad teams generally win 60 or so games.

    Even the historically bad 1962 Mets managed to win 40 games. You could probably field a team of rookies making the league minimum and still win 40 games.

    The real trick is in figuring out how to jump from the 60 win range into the 90-100 win range. Getting those extra 30-40 wins are what you teams really shell out the big bucks for.

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