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    The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    Always like to get the draft talk started early -- we're well within six months of the Reds taking the overall #7 pick, so we're getting there...

    Here's a nice list from brewerfan.net -- you can read more about each player on that site.


    01 Alvarez, Pedro 3B L/R 6-2/225 Vanderbilt

    02 Matusz, Brian LHP L/L 6-4/193 San Diego

    03 Crow, Aaron RHP R/R 6-2/205 Missouri

    04 Melville, Tim RHP R/R 6-5/205 HS

    05 Hosmer, Eric 1B L/L 6-4/210 HS

    06 Alonso, Yonder 1B L/R 6-2/215 Miami

    07 Smoak, Justin 1B S/L 6-3/200 South Carolina

    08 Cole, Gerrit RHP R/R 6-3/190 HS

    09 Beckham, Tim SS R/R 6-2/190 HS

    10 Meyer, Alex RHP R/R 6-7/200 HS

    11 St. Clair, Cole LHP L/L 6-5/225

    12 Skipworth, Kyle C L/R 6-3/195 HS

    13 Martinez, Harold 3B R/R 6-3/185 HS

    14 Hicks, Aaron CF S/R 6-1/160 HS

    15 Friedrich, Christian LHP R/L 6-3/210 Eastern Kentucky

    16 Martin, Ethan 3B R/R 6-3/200 HS

    17 Ross, Tyson RHP R/R 6-6/230 California

    18 Thompson, Jacob RHP R/R 6-6/200 Virginia

    19 Galloway, Isaac CF R/R 6-3/190 HS

    20 Crawford, Brandon SS L/R 6-2/200 UCLA
    I'm a BPA guy for the most part, but I think the team is now in such a good position with young arms that it's reasonable to consider drafting a bat that could emerge while the young arms are settling into what could be a very solid rotation. In that vein, several nice LH bats may be sitting there -- Smoak, Alonso, Hosmer. Keep in mind that soon Griffey (and maybe Dunn) will be gone, and the system features only the likes of Dorn, Francisco and Fiorentino (while looking pretty good from the right side). Having big LH power in GAB is nice -- should the team snag one of these guys?

    I'm very intrigued by the two shortstops -- Beckham and Crawford. Crawford is a LH bat with lots of tools coming off a bad Cape Cod summer. The recent BA college chat noted that he has something to prove this year and could move himself into the top of round 1 if he plays well at UCLA. I have to think that with the apparent lack of dominant arms at the top, hot position players are going to come off the board fast. But I'd be quite pleased if either of these shortstops ends up in Cincy (provided Crawford has at least a decent junior year and doesn't seem like a reach).

    Interested in others' thoughts.
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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    How could you forget Jay Bruce is LH?
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    How could you forget Jay Bruce is LH?
    Votto too -- I didn't forget. But beyond those guys there's not much in the system to count on.
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    The best strategy no matter what the situation is to take the best-available-player IMO. Hopefully we are making a move for the NL Central in the coming years and we need propects as bargaining chips more than replacements. That is where having the most valueable prospect calculates into the equation...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    The best strategy no matter what the situation is to take the best-available-player IMO. Hopefully we are making a move for the NL Central in the coming years and we need propects as bargaining chips more than replacements. That is where having the most valueable prospect calculates into the equation...
    Can't argue with that. But folks develop favorites anyway, and in supporting them it's natural to talk about how the players might fit into the team's future, beyond being simply an asset.
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    I'd love to see either Brian Matusz or Tim Beckham. Either would make me very happy.

    After that, I don't really have an axe to grind. Let's see what happens this (amateur) season. I think I read somewhere that Brandon Crawford may not stay at shortstop for the longterm.
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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    let's see, so far this group has picked a defensive CFer with power potential and a defensive C with power potential

    I'm going out on a limb: a defensive MIer with power potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeton View Post
    let's see, so far this group has picked a defensive CFer with power potential and a defensive C with power potential

    I'm going out on a limb: a defensive MIer with power potential
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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    let's see, so far this group has picked a defensive CFer with power potential and a defensive C with power potential

    I'm going out on a limb: a defensive MIer with power potential
    I'd say the keyword is "athletic" not "defensive." Buckley has a history of picking middle-of-the-diamond guys (Aaron Hill, Russ Adams). Like I said, the Reds may have a shot at a very good SS prospect this time around.
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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    I want a pure hitter. No more good fielders with questionable bats. Maybe I'm crazy, but I want to use my #1 picks on guys with the highest floors rather than the highest ceilings. Sure, if there's a plus defending SS/CF who has a great plate approach and can hit for power, I'd be all over it. But give me another Joey Votto over another Drew Stubbs.
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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    I'm torn on this class. On one hand I would love to have a future stud SS, on the other I want someone who's somewhat close to contributing.

    So whomever is the closest to contributing with the highest possible ceiling and floor would be my choice. My guess is that would be either Alvarez or Matusz assuming either is ava. which I doubt. If both happen to be ava. Matusz would be my selection by an ever so slight margin. Smoak would likely fall 3rd under that scenario.

    Of course it's early and I haven't yet got into delving into these guys talents.
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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    I heart Justin Smoak. That kid can flat out rake. But he doesn't fit the Buckley high draft pick mold of MI type.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the pick is someone who is not on that list. Mesorasco & Bruce were both considered 3rd to 4th rounders at this time the year before a killer senior year made the Reds take them with the No. 1 slot.

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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    BPA (Best Pitcher Available). Preferably close to contributing.

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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcclain19 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if the pick is someone who is not on that list. Mesorasco & Bruce were both considered 3rd to 4th rounders at this time the year before a killer senior year made the Reds take them with the No. 1 slot.
    agreed. I expect a four tool SS (doesn't hit for average) who moves up in the last month. A rich man's Paul Janish.

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    Re: The Reds #1 pick -- what say you?

    I don't have much expertise on amateur players but assuming the top 6 on the Brewerfan list are gone when the Reds pick and based purely on the descriptions shown, I'd go with Beckham or Cole St. Clair. I like a 6-5, 225 LHP with "good stuff, a fresh arm and deception." Since he's a college guy I'd hope for a short minor league tenure.

    As for Beckham, I take it that he can hit and since he is described as "silky smooth," I assume he can stay at SS long term. The Reds still need a SS of the future. The curent crop of prospect SS (Frazier, Soto, Valaika) don't really have the glove for the spot. Cozart, Janish and Jose Castro probably don't have the bat. Sleepers might be the international guy Kuo or Angel Cabrera. Castro is probably the best option at this point and he looks strictly like a number 8 hitter to me.
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