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    Lineup Construction?

    I can't figure out how Dusty is going to stack the lineup this year, especially with Votto, and if Bruce makes the team out of spring training. What are some of your thoughts?
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    I can't figure out how Dusty is going to stack the lineup this year, especially with Votto, and if Bruce makes the team out of spring training. What are some of your thoughts?
    Without Bruce:

    Freel/Hopper CF
    Phillips 2B
    Dunn LF
    Encarnacion 3B
    Griffey RF
    Votto 1B
    Gonzalez SS
    Ross C

    With Bruce:

    Encarnacion 3B
    Gonzalez SS
    Dunn LF
    Phillips 2B
    Griffey RF
    Bruce CF
    Votto 1B
    Ross C
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Assuming Bruce starts the year with the Reds:

    Votto
    Encarnacion
    Dunn
    Griffey
    Bruce
    Phillips
    Gonzalez
    Ross/Valentine

    I expect something more along the lines of (at least at first):
    Phillips (he's fast)
    Gonzalez ("professional bat handler")
    Griffey
    Dunn
    Encarnacion
    Votto
    Bruce
    Ross

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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    I can't figure out how Dusty is going to stack the lineup this year, especially with Votto, and if Bruce makes the team out of spring training. What are some of your thoughts?
    I'm assuming that Bruce does not start right away. If he doesn't, you probably will get:

    Freel
    Phillips
    Griffey
    Votto
    Dunn
    Encarnacion
    Gonzalez
    Ross

    Then it goes R-R-L-L-L-R-R-R. Kind of screwy and kind of looking at what he did in Chicago. When Bruce finally starts (and I hope it's soon), You'll probably see Phillips lead off and Brue bat fourth.

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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster View Post
    I expect something more along the lines of (at least at first):
    Phillips (he's fast)
    Gonzalez ("professional bat handler")
    Griffey
    Dunn
    Encarnacion
    Votto
    Bruce
    Ross
    If I had to put money on any one lineup with the above 8 players, I think you've got it.

    With Freel or Hopper:

    Freel/Hopper
    Phillips
    Griffey
    Encarnacion
    Dunn
    Gonzalez
    Votto
    Ross

    Yuck.

    My personal lineup looks like this:

    1B Votto
    3B Encarnacion
    LF Dunn
    RF Griffey
    2B Phillips
    CF Bruce
    SS Gonzalez
    C Ross
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    If I had to put money on any one lineup with the above 8 players, I think you've got it.

    With Freel or Hopper:

    Freel/Hopper
    Phillips
    Griffey
    Encarnacion
    Dunn
    Gonzalez
    Votto
    Ross

    Yuck.
    I think this topic is a reason that Bruce may be left in AAA at the start of the year. It enables the Reds to use Freel/Hopper as the obvious lead-off choice.

    Its one of the reasons that I prefer a trade of EdE with some minor leaguers over the other players in any deal or a pitcher. Keppinger can lead-off at 3B and the team won't feel forced to hold Bruce back to make a spot for a lead-off guy.

    I doubt the Reds do this but my line-up would be:

    Bruce CF
    EdE 3B
    Dunn LF
    Griffey RF
    Phillips 2B
    Votto 1B
    Gonzalez SS
    Ross C
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    My money's on Jay Bruce going north with the major league team.

    I don;t think the Reds would have traded Hamilton if that wasn't the plan.
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster View Post
    I expect something more along the lines of (at least at first):
    Phillips (he's fast)
    Gonzalez ("professional bat handler")
    Griffey
    Dunn
    Encarnacion
    Votto
    Bruce
    Ross
    I expect that to be pretty close to the way it will be with Bruce in there. Maybe Votto and Gonzo are swapped but otherwise I think that will be accurate.
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    My money's on Jay Bruce going north with the major league team.

    I don;t think the Reds would have traded Hamilton if that wasn't the plan.
    That is what I thought initially too. I just have a hunch listening to Dusty. When Dusty was asked he named Freel and Hopper and others who could surprise or something like that.
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    With Bruce:
    Votto 1B
    Phillips 2B
    Dunn LF
    Griffey RF
    Edwin 3B
    Bruce CF
    Gonzalez SS
    Ross C

    Without Bruce:
    Hopper CF
    Phillips 2B
    Dunn LF
    Griffey RF
    Edwin 3B
    Votto 1B
    Gonzalez SS
    Ross C
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    My money's on Jay Bruce going north with the major league team.

    I don;t think the Reds would have traded Hamilton if that wasn't the plan.

    If he has a good spring I would agree. But if he hits .180 and looks overmatched in the spring, you have to believe he's going back to LOU. Because they have Freel and Hopper - 2 guys who can play CF and lead off and are scrappy and/or vets - they really don't need to take Bruce north unless he has a great spring. But injuries could change all that too. I'm not saying that Dusty is anti-youth but all things being equal he is probably going to go with a vet over a kid who hasn't had one AB in the Show and I would guess most managers would do the same.
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    Hopper vs lefties

    vs RHP:
    Votto
    EE
    Griffey
    Phiilips
    Dunn
    Bruce
    Ross
    Gonzalez


    vs LHP:
    Hopper
    Kep
    EE
    Phillips
    Dunn
    Ross
    Bruce
    Gonzalez

    The idea is Griifey can't play 162 games and is MUCH better vs righties than lefties. So get Hopper in there vs lefties.
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    If he has a good spring I would agree. But if he hits .180 and looks overmatched in the spring, you have to believe he's going back to LOU.
    most certainly.
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Betting on Opening Day:

    Hopper - CF
    Bruce - RF
    Phillips - 2B
    Dunn - LF
    Encarnacion - 3B
    Votto - 1B
    Keppinger - SS
    Valentin - C
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    Re: Lineup Construction?

    Quote Originally Posted by red-in-la View Post
    Betting on Opening Day:

    Hopper - CF
    Bruce - RF
    Phillips - 2B
    Dunn - LF
    Encarnacion - 3B
    Votto - 1B
    Keppinger - SS
    Valentin - C
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