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    Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Just read this post on the Sun Deck:

    Didn't see it listed elsewhere but FWIW--Paul Daugherty on WLW said about an hour ago his sources are telling him the Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton.

    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showt...13#post1547813

    I hope Krivsky is smart enough to not give up one of the fab five of Bailey, Bruce, Cueto, Volquez, or Votto for Blanton.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    He would help, but I am also hoping that WK doesn't overpay for him.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    I thought we got over Blanton
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    I'm a Joe Blanton enthusiast but hopefully WayneK doesn't overpay for him if we land him.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    If it takes Cueto or Bailey to get Blanton, I would have just sent the Orioles Bruce to get Bedard.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    He gives up a lot of hits.
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Blanton isn't a bad pitcher at all, but he's not a great fit for us and is primed to cost more than he's worth. That said, Beane has shown he's willing to go for volume, so there might be an option here using guys like Juan Fransisco, Matt Maloney, and Tyler Pelland -- or something like that.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    2008 ZiPS Projection:

    211 innings
    4.22 ERA
    228 H
    121 K
    52 BB

    can anybody post Blanton's PECOTA projection? I could swear it was an ERA near 4.40...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Blanton's weighted mean projection from PECOTA (nice memory, BC):

    187.1 IP
    4.40 ERA
    206 H
    110 K
    51 BB
    19 HR

    Those numbers suggest a very Arroyo like performance with fewer K and fewer HR. Of course, those projections change with a move to the NL and to GABP.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    To be honest, I'm a bit scared that since Wayne failed to get any significant starting pitcher, he might overpay for Blanton. Wayne is the kind of guy that would feel good about paying $3 for Blanton instead of $4 for Bedard..

    If we can get Blanton without giving up much, then fine.. However, he's not going to push us over the top, so I don't want Wayne selling the farm for him (I wouldn't have minded selling the farm for Haren).
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Blanton's weighted mean projection from PECOTA (nice memory, BC):

    187.1 IP
    4.40 ERA
    206 H
    110 K
    51 BB
    19 HR

    Those numbers suggest a very Arroyo like performance with fewer K and fewer HR. Of course, those projections change with a move to the NL and to GABP.
    thanks

    I'd rather just let the young guys attempt to replicate those numbers...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    thanks

    I'd rather just let the young guys attempt to replicate those numbers...
    If the deal would require a top 5 guy, or two top 10s, me too.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Can anyone really envision Beane accepting a package NOT including one of the big 4/5? I can't.

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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    Votto seems like his type of player
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    Re: Paul Daugherty says Reds are seriously pursuing Joe Blanton

    If it takes any one of Bruce, Bailey, Cueto or Votto then I don't want any part of Blanton. If we can work around that premise, I am all ears.


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