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    Re: Proposed NCAA football rule changes

    Quote Originally Posted by ochre View Post
    To play devils devils advocate, did they wear shirts in the nascent days of football?

    Unless the wear of shirts is an "add-on" like facemasks (and to some degree helmets even), I see no reason to change the rules regarding collar tackles now.

    Why stop there? Tackling at the knees tends to lead to more knee injuries. Tackling high tends to lead to more head, neck, and spine injuries. Let's just require the tackler to run alongside the ball carrier and grab them gently at the waist while applying negative acceleration until they both near zero velocity. At that point the tackler could ask, kindly of course, for the ball carrier to take a knee. Should he refuse, the tackler must then drag him to the nearest sidelines and force him out of bounds, lest anyone risk the injury of colliding with the ground. I bet it would speed up the game too.
    Grabbing someone by the collar is inherently more dangerous than any of the others. Helmet to helmet contact is illegal. Knee injuries aren't deadly, but head and neck injuries are, so whatever can be done to eliminate that is a plus. Yeah, some might not like that it takes away some of the toughness aspect, but lets not blow it out of proportion. It's a contact sport, but it's not a blood sport.
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    Re: Proposed NCAA football rule changes

    In other recommended rules changes announced Tuesday:

    A coach will get an extra instant replay challenge if his first one is upheld. Under the old rule the coach had only one challenge whether he was right or wrong. Under the new rule the coach, if he's right, will get one extra challenge, but no more.

    If a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team will have the option of taking the ball on its own 40-yard line. The previous rule gave the receiving team the ball on the 35-yard line.

    The incidental five-yard facemask penalty will be eliminated. Only the 15-yard facemask penalties will be called.

    A "horse collar" tackle, where the defender grabs inside the back collar of the shoulder pads to pull the runner down, will now be a personal foul.

    Any Big Ten team will hereby be spotted 14 points in any future national championship game against a team from the SEC.

    There will no longer be sideline warnings for players and coaches who crowd onto the field during the game. The official may assess a five-yard penalty without a warning for the infraction.

    The recommendations must still be reviewed and given final approval by the NCAA's Playing Rules Oversight Panel, which meets in April.
    These all look good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed View Post
    These all look good to me.
    Any Big Ten team will hereby be spotted 14 points in any future national championship game against a team from the SEC.

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    Re: Proposed NCAA football rule changes

    Quote Originally Posted by MaineRed View Post
    These all look good to me.
    MaineRed where you been lately? I missed these kind of comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    MaineRed where you been lately? I missed these kind of comments.
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    Re: Proposed NCAA football rule changes

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    SEC Roadshow Tour.
    Nah. we would have been there for that.

    It was the Payton Manning/Eli Manning-Only-SEC-Quarterbacks-Can-Win-the-Super-Bowl Tour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabvu2498 View Post
    Nah. we would have been there for that.

    It was the Payton Manning/Eli Manning-Only-SEC-Quarterbacks-Can-Win-the-Super-Bowl Tour.
    Hehe ... someone has to keep these Big Ten fans in line ...

    MaineRed seems to relish the job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Calipari is not, nor has he ever been accused or "caught", cheating. He himself turned in one of his players (Camby) for dealing with an agent to get one Final Four overturned. The other is all on the NCAA and Rose. (IF Rose cheated.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by acredsfan View Post
    Grabbing someone by the collar is inherently more dangerous than any of the others. Helmet to helmet contact is illegal. Knee injuries aren't deadly, but head and neck injuries are, so whatever can be done to eliminate that is a plus. Yeah, some might not like that it takes away some of the toughness aspect, but lets not blow it out of proportion. It's a contact sport, but it's not a blood sport.
    Horse Collar tackles are not a direct head and/or neck injury cause. They tend to tear up legs. It is pretty much a rule being imposed because Roy Williams broke 3 different player's legs tackling them by the collar in '04.

    Cleats getting stuck in the turf have caused more severe/frequent leg injuries, so lets propose they play barefoot too.

    Helmet to Helmet contact is at best subjectively illegal. There isn't much consistency with how it is called, even from the same team of officials within the same game.
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    Re: Proposed NCAA football rule changes

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    I hate outlawing the horse collar tackle. Is this a contact sport? I know its dangerous, but so is getting tackled by 300 pound lineman-football is inherently dangerous...
    Certain types of tackles are significantly more likely to cause bodily injury -- thus they are outlawed. You can't tackle by the face-mask. You can't spear a player with your helmet. You can't tackle somebody below the waist while they are engaged with a blocker. You can't tackle somebody from behind when they don't have the ball. These rules are there to keep the game running without the participants getting maimed. I think horse-collar tackles belong in this group.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Proposed NCAA football rule changes

    Quote Originally Posted by ochre View Post
    Helmet to Helmet contact is at best subjectively illegal. There isn't much consistency with how it is called, even from the same team of officials within the same game.
    Helmet to helmet contact is not illegal. It happens on almost every play at the line of scrimmage and that's why they wear helmets. As for tackling the ballcarrier can duck his head at the last second so the oncoming defender 's helmet contacts his. I hope this practice isn't rewarded with a 15 yd penalty.

    I'm fine with the 40s clock but I hope they reject the clock starts on out of bounds plays. This rule is only in place to shorten the game. If you want to shorten the game don't change the rules based on how many minutes are left in the half. Just shorten the 15 minute periods, however I like the 3:30 hr college games. Why would I want fewer plays in a product I enjoy? That's like a chocolate lover saying they'd like Hershey to shrink their candy bars.


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