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    10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    I think this list speaks volumes about the rating of prospects. 10 years later, it's a very underwhelming list of somebodies, wannabes, and never weres.

    1. Ben Grieve, of, Athletics
    2. Paul Konerko, 1b/3b, Dodgers
    3. Adrian Beltre, 3b, Dodgers
    4. Kerry Wood, rhp, Cubs
    5. Aramis Ramirez, 3b, Pirates
    6. Matt White, rhp, Devil Rays
    7. Kris Benson, rhp, Pirates
    8. Travis Lee, 1b, Diamondbacks
    9. Carl Pavano, rhp, Expos
    10. Miguel Tejada, ss, Athletics
    11. Todd Helton, 1b, Rockies
    12. Mark Kotsay, of, Marlins
    13. Chad Hermansen, 2b, Pirates
    14. Brad Fullmer, 1b, Expos
    15. Juan Encarnacion, of, Tigers
    16. Matt Clement, rhp, Padres
    17. Ruben Mateo, of, Rangers
    18. Rick Ankiel, lhp, Cardinals
    19. Richard Hidalgo, of, Astros
    20. Sean Casey, 1b, Indians
    21. Darnell McDonald, of, Orioles
    22. Brian Rose, rhp, Red Sox
    23. Ryan Anderson, lhp, Mariners
    24. Matt Anderson, rhp, Tigers
    25. Eric Milton, lhp, Twins
    26. Russell Branyan, 3b, Indians
    27. Bruce Chen, lhp, Braves
    28. Scott Elarton, rhp, Astros
    29. Grant Roberts, rhp, Mets
    30. Eric Chavez, 3b, Athletics
    31. Cesar King, c, Rangers
    32. Dermal Brown, of, Royals
    33. Eli Marrero, c, Cardinals
    34. Mike Caruso, ss, White Sox
    35. Ryan Minor, 3b, Orioles
    36. Troy Glaus, 3b, Angels
    37. Rolando Arrojo, rhp, Devil Rays
    38. Roy Halladay, rhp, Blue Jays
    39. Braden Looper, rhp, Cardinals
    40. Ruben Rivera, of, Padres
    41. Francisco Cordero, rhp, Tigers
    42. A. J. Hinch, c, Athletics
    43. Carlos Lee, 3b, White Sox
    44. Luis Rivera, rhp, Braves
    45. John Patterson, rhp, Diamondbacks
    46. Ricky Ledee, of, Yankees
    47. Derrek Lee, 1b, Marlins
    48. Alex Gonzalez, ss, Marlins
    49. Ben Davis, c, Padres
    50. Willie Martinez, rhp, Indians
    51. Michael Coleman, of, Red Sox
    52. Vernon Wells, of, Blue Jays
    53. Ben Petrick, c, Rockies
    54. Jason Grilli, rhp, Giants
    55. Luis Rivas, ss, Twins
    56. Magglio Ordonez, of, White Sox
    57. Julio Ramirez, of, Marlins
    58. Ryan Brannan, rhp, Phillies
    59. Mike Judd, rhp, Dodgers
    60. Ed Yarnall, lhp, Mets
    61. Enrique Wilson, 2b, Indians
    62. Damian Jackson, ss, Reds
    63. Corey Lee, lhp, Rangers
    64. Lance Berkman, of, Astros
    65. Abraham Nunez, ss, Pirates
    66. Joe Fontenot, rhp, Marlins
    67. Shawn Chacon, rhp, Rockies
    68. Robbie Bell, rhp, Braves
    69. Brent Butler, ss, Cardinals
    70. Preston Wilson, of, Mets
    71. Mike Lowell, 3b, Yankees
    72. Rafael Medina, rhp, Marlins
    73. Jarrod Washburn, lhp, Angels
    74. Ramon Hernandez, c, Athletics
    75. Ramon Oritz, rhp, Angels
    76. Wade Miller, rhp, Astros
    77. Karim Garcia, of, Diamondbacks
    78. Sidney Ponson, rhp, Orioles
    79. Robinson Checo, rhp, Red Sox
    80. Lorenzo Barcelo, rhp, White Sox
    81. Derrick Gibson, of, Rockies
    82. Gil Meche, rhp, Mariners
    83. Javier Vazquez, rhp, Expos
    84. David Ortiz, 1b, Twins
    85. Nelson Lara, rhp, Marlins
    86. Juan Melo, ss, Padres
    87. Todd Dunwoody, of, Marlins
    88. Chris Reitsma, rhp, Red Sox
    89. Valerio de los Santos, lhp, Brewers
    90. Jeff Wallace, lhp, Pirates
    91. Dennis Reyes, lhp, Dodgers
    92. Orlando Cabrera, 2b, Expos
    93. George Lombard, of, Braves
    94. Lariel Gonzalez, rhp, Rockies
    95. Geoff Jenkins, of, Brewers
    96. Geoff Goetz, lhp, Mets
    97. Daryle Ward, 1b, Astros
    98. Jackson Melian, of, Yankees
    99. Kevin Witt, 1b, Blue Jays
    100. Chris Enochs, rhp, Athletics
    This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    # 38 Didn't turn out too bad
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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by LincolnparkRed View Post
    # 38 Didn't turn out too bad
    Same with #64 and 84.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Looks to me like being in the top 20 is a pretty good sign that you'll be a decent major leaguer. After that, it's a total crapshoot. That said, I find it interesting that the best players are fairly well distributed throughout that list, with some of the very best towards the bottom.

    2. Paul Konerko, 1b/3b, Dodgers
    3. Adrian Beltre, 3b, Dodgers
    4. Kerry Wood, rhp, Cubs
    5. Aramis Ramirez, 3b, Pirates
    7. Kris Benson, rhp, Pirates
    9. Carl Pavano, rhp, Expos

    10. Miguel Tejada, ss, Athletics
    11. Todd Helton, 1b, Rockies
    15. Juan Encarnacion, of, Tigers
    16. Matt Clement, rhp, Padres
    18. Rick Ankiel, lhp, Cardinals

    20. Sean Casey, 1b, Indians
    25. Eric Milton, lhp, Twins.

    30. Eric Chavez, 3b, Athletics
    33. Eli Marrero, c, Cardinals
    36. Troy Glaus, 3b, Angels
    38. Roy Halladay, rhp, Blue Jays

    39. Braden Looper, rhp, Cardinals

    41. Francisco Cordero, rhp, Tigers
    43. Carlos Lee, 3b, White Sox
    47. Derrek Lee, 1b, Marlins

    48. Alex Gonzalez, ss, Marlins

    52. Vernon Wells, of, Blue Jays
    56. Magglio Ordonez, of, White Sox


    64. Lance Berkman, of, Astros
    67. Shawn Chacon, rhp, Rockies

    70. Preston Wilson, of, Mets
    71. Mike Lowell, 3b, Yankees
    73. Jarrod Washburn, lhp, Angels
    74. Ramon Hernandez, c, Athletics
    75. Ramon Oritz, rhp, Angels
    76. Wade Miller, rhp, Astros
    78. Sidney Ponson, rhp, Orioles

    82. Gil Meche, rhp, Mariners
    83. Javier Vazquez, rhp, Expos
    84. David Ortiz, 1b, Twins

    91. Dennis Reyes, lhp, Dodgers
    92. Orlando Cabrera, 2b, Expos
    95. Geoff Jenkins, of, Brewers
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    It's a good reality check for those that think that Bailey, Cueto, Votto and Bruce are all going to be stars at the major league level. It's a nice dream but the odds of it happening are very, very long.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Rate 'em:

    A = Perennial All-Star (Helton, Halladay, Berkman)
    B = Quality Major Leaguer - had a few good years (Casey, Chavez, Clement, Preston Wilson, Beltre)
    C = Journeyman (Branyan, Kotsay, Chen, Dennis Reyes)
    D = Only a whiff of the majors (Grieve, Ryan Minor, Dermal Brown, Ben Petrick)
    F = Never made it to the majors
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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    I like the fact that at the time the list was printed, the Reds had 1 in the entire top 100. Damian Jackson. I don't even remember him. Was he any good?

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    Rate 'em:

    A = Perennial All-Star (Helton, Halladay, Berkman)
    B = Quality Major Leaguer - had a few good years (Casey, Chavez, Clement, Preston Wilson, Beltre)
    C = Journeyman (Branyan, Kotsay, Chen, Dennis Reyes)
    D = Only a whiff of the majors (Grieve, Ryan Minor, Dermal Brown, Ben Petrick)
    F = Never made it to the majors
    Not to nitpick, but I'd probably rate Grieve closer to a B than a D. He played for 9 seasons, won Rookie of the Year in '98, and had 4 full seasons with an OPS+ of 111 or better (123, 118, 116, and 111) with a career OPS+ of 113.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    I count 12 guys that JimBo acquired while he was here.
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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I like the fact that at the time the list was printed, the Reds had 1 in the entire top 100. Damian Jackson. I don't even remember him. Was he any good?
    July 31, 1997: Traded by the Cleveland Indians with Jim Crowell, Danny Graves, and Scott Winchester to the Cincinnati Reds for Jeff Branson and John Smiley.

    February 2, 1999: Traded by the Cincinnati Reds with Josh Harris (minors) and Reggie Sanders to the San Diego Padres for Mark Sweeney and Greg Vaughn.

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     Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
    +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
     1996 22 CLE AL   5   10    2    3   2  0   0    1   0  0   1   4  .300  .364  .500  117    5   0   0   0   0   0
     1997 23 TOT     20   36    8    7   2  1   1    2   2  1   4   8  .194  .293  .389   75   14   1   0   1   1   0
             CLE AL   8    9    2    1   0  0   0    0   1  0   0   1  .111  .200  .111  -16    1   0   0   0   1   0
             CIN NL  12   27    6    6   2  1   1    2   1  1   4   7  .222  .323  .481  106   13   1   0   1   0   0
     1998 24 CIN NL  13   38    4   12   5  0   0    7   2  0   6   4  .316  .400  .447  121   17   0   1   0   0   1
     1999 25 SDP NL 133  388   56   87  20  2   9   39  34 10  53 105  .224  .320  .356   77  138   0   3   3   3   2
     2000 26 SDP NL 138  470   68  120  27  6   6   37  28  6  62 108  .255  .345  .377   89  177   4   2   2   3   7
     2001 27 SDP NL 122  440   67  106  21  6   4   38  23  6  44 128  .241  .316  .343   78  151   2   3   2   6   6
     2002 28 DET AL  81  245   31   63  20  1   1   25  12  3  21  36  .257  .320  .359   87   88   2   3   0   3   3
     2003 29 BOS AL 109  161   34   42   7  0   1   13  16  8   8  28  .261  .294  .323   60   52   2   1   0   0   4
     2004 30 TOT     21   30    2    3   2  0   1    3   0  0   4  12  .100  .206  .267   21    8   0   0   2   0   0
             CHC NL   7   15    1    1   0  0   1    1   0  0   3   6  .067  .222  .267   25    4   0   0   2   0   0
             KCR AL  14   15    1    2   2  0   0    2   0  0   1   6  .133  .188  .267   16    4   0   0   0   0   0
     2005 31 SDP NL 118  275   44   70   9  0   5   23  15  2  30  45  .255  .335  .342   85   94   3   1   1   4   4
     2006 32 WSN NL  67  116   16   23   6  1   4   10   1  3  12  39  .198  .295  .371   74   43   3   0   0   4   1
    +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
     11 Seasons     827 2209  332  536 121 17  32  198 133 39 245 517  .243  .323  .356   81  787  17  14  11  24  28
    This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    that was interesting....funny some of those guys don't seem to fall together chronologically in my mind for whatever reason.

    Whatever happened to Richard Hidalgo and Ed Yarnell?

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I count 12 guys that JimBo acquired while he was here.
    So does that mean between them they had 60 tools?

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I like the fact that at the time the list was printed, the Reds had 1 in the entire top 100. Damian Jackson. I don't even remember him. Was he any good?
    He never did anything with the Reds but he was included in the Greg Vaughn trade. He's bounced around a lot but did play quite a bit with Boston a few years back. Take a wild guess who he played for last in 2006!

    Oops sava beat me to it...
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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    I think lists like this are unfair to some prospects. While they do show that prospects are difficult to predict, it is unfair to compare a consensus top 10 prospect who has played well in AA and AAA to a guy like Matt White or Ruben Mateo, who were ranked based on projection even though they hadn't broken A ball yet.

    I'll take my chances with our four. Blanton and the rest of them can stay where they are. Just make sure that the team around Votto, Bruce, Homer and Cueto is ready in a few years. Because they will be.

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    Re: 10 years later: Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects of 1998

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I count 12 guys that JimBo acquired while he was here.
    He had a 1998 fetish. He acquired three first rounders from the 1998 draft too (in addition to the guy he picked, Austin Kearns). A fifth 1998 first rounder, Bubba Crosby, also played for the Reds. In all I count 17 guys for the '98 top 100 who've been through the Reds organization.
    Last edited by M2; 02-20-2008 at 08:36 PM.
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