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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    I would like to see:

    Batting order:

    Bruce - CF
    Keppinger - SS
    Phillips - 2B
    Dunn - LF
    Encarnacion - 3B
    Griffey - RF
    Votto - 1B
    Valentin - C

    Rotation:

    Harang
    Fogg
    Belisle
    Arroyo
    Bailey

    Bullpen:

    Cordero
    Burton
    Volquez
    Roenike
    Bray
    Affeldt

    Bench:

    Hopper
    Freel
    Ross
    Gonzalez
    Hatteberg
    Drew Anderson

    Comments:

    I would like to see this team just out of things being interesting.....not because I think it is a winning combination. I would try to sign Lofton to sit on the bench instead of Anderson.....but I seriously doubt that will happen.

    I want the BP to be made up as I expressed above because I want to see as much heat in it as possible. I think there is value to having the other team know that their bench is going to have to face 95 mph+ fastballs with the game on the line.

    I think there is zero chance that either Bailey or Volquez start the year in AAA. I just think that after an off season where a solid starter wasn't added and there was so much talk about the young arms, WK is going to make sure that youth is served. It also gives him and excuse if this team loses 92 games again.
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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Here is what I think based on the current roster.

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    Spot		POS		What I'd like	What is likely
    1		C		Ross		Ross
    2		1B		Votto		Votto
    3		2B		Phillips	Phillips
    4		3B		EdE		EdE
    5		SS		Gonzo		Gonzo
    6		LF		Dunn		Dunn
    7		CF		Bruce		Bruce
    8		RF		Griffey		Griffey
    					
    9		LHPH		Hatte		Hatte
    10		IF		Keppy		Keppy
    11		U		Freel		Freel
    12		OF		Hopper		Hopper
    13		C		Javy		Javy
    					
    14		SP1		Harang		Harang
    15		SP2		Arroyo		Arroyo
    16		SP3		Belisle		Belisle
    17		SP4		Volquez		Volquez
    18		SP5		Fogg		Fogg
    					
    19		CL		Cordero		Cordero
    20		8th		Weathers	Weathers
    21		SU		Burton		Burton
    22		LHSU		Affeldt		Affeldt
    23		LOOGY		Couter		Stanton
    24		Wildcard	Roenicke	Majewski
    25		Long Rel	Salmon		Coffey
    					
    DL		60		Livingston      Livingston
    DL		60		Castro		Castro
    DL		15		Bray		Bray
    DL		15		Sergio		Sergio
    I wouldn't mind seeing Bako for Ross if the Reds think he can benefit the young pitchers. I don't like what Ross adds on offense or defense, but if Bako isn't a defensive upgrade from a handling pitchers standpoint, may as well take the occasional homers. I'd like to see a deal or two to clear some chaff and maybe upgrade where possible. I still hope for a Blanton deal from the minor league ranks (Stubbs, Maloney, etc. not Cueto or Bailey) with Fogg pushed to long relief. I also prefer a lefty bat that can play somewhere other than 1B in place of Hatte and one of Hopper/Freel probably should go. I prefer keeping Freel over Hopper because of his versatility and his history of getting on base.
    Last edited by mth123; 02-24-2008 at 07:02 AM.
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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Here's what I'm afraid will happen.

    Starting 8
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Junior
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro

    It's the ultimate Reds nightmare.
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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Here's what I'm afraid will happen.

    Starting 8
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Junior
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro
    Juan Castro

    It's the ultimate Reds nightmare.
    . . . and Junior is the center fielder while Mike Stanton gets the ball every inning.

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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    So no one really thinks Mercker will make the team?

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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    So no one really thinks Mercker will make the team?
    I think a lot of the bench and pen spots may ride on who the team can dump (and acquire) in late spring deals. I would imagine that Stanton, Freel and Hatte will be shopped. If Stanton goes, I could see Mercker going north.
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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by red-in-la View Post
    I would like to see this team just out of things being interesting.....not because I think it is a winning combination.
    I think winning is very interesting.

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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    I have a hard time playing "what I would like" just because I would like alot to happen. But I will try to make my "what the roster should be" list as realistic as I can make it. The "what the roster will be" list shouldn't be too hard, just follow the money/options trail.

    What I expect the OD roster to look like, sans injuries of course.

    Starters
    1.) Harang
    2.) Arroyo
    3.) Belisle
    4.) Fogg
    5.) Bailey

    Pen
    6.) Cordero
    7.) Weathers
    8.) Affeldt
    9.) Burton
    10.) Stanton
    11.) Bray/Coffey (This depends on the health of Bray, if he's ok he's in)

    Starting 8
    12.) Votto 1B
    13.) Phillips 2B
    14.) Griffey RF
    15.) Dunn LF
    16.) Encarnacion 3B
    17.) Bruce CF
    18.) Gonzales SS
    19.) Ross C

    Bench
    20.) Hatteberg 1B
    21.) Hopper OF
    22.) Keppinger IF/UT
    23.) Valentin C
    24.) A. Phillips 1B/3B
    25.) Freel OF/UT

    What I would like to see: Based in large part to what's semi-realistic, I.E. Griffey is going nowhere but I wouldn't mind seeing it. Also I don't expect think anymore pitching acquisitions will happen, but again I wish they would.

    Harang
    Arroyo
    Bailey
    Belisle
    Volquez

    (Would love to see Cueto but it's a bit of a longshot, but shouldn't be)

    Cordero
    Burton
    Affeldt
    Weathers
    Bray
    Coffey

    (Again like with Cueto, I would like to see McBeth and Roenicke make it but it's not realistic in my mind at this point.)

    Lofton/Hopper CF
    Votto 1B
    Dunn LF
    Phillips 2B
    Griffey RF
    Encarnacion 3B
    Gonzales SS
    Ross C

    Hatteberg 1B
    Kielty (Has he signed with anyone yet??) 4th OF
    Keppinger UT
    Valentin C
    Freel 5th OF/UT
    An. Phillips 1B/3B

    (Would love to have Bruce up but again I think he's a longshot if we acquire a a Lofton/Crisp type)
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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    I'm just curious because I don't know. Why would Bray be "in" by everyone's estimation? What have you seen that makes him the sure bet? To be frank, all I've seen is a guy who gives up lots of hits and runs. I'd just like to know what there is in Bray that everyone thinks is wonderful.

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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    I would like to see:

    Starting 8

    Bruce - CF
    Gonzo - SS
    Phillips - 2B
    Dunn - LF
    Encarnacion - 3B
    Griffey - RF
    Votto - 1B
    Ross - C

    Rotation:

    Harang
    Fogg
    Volquez
    Arroyo
    Bailey

    Bullpen:

    Cordero
    Burton
    Volquez
    Roenike/Sergio
    Bray
    Affeldt
    Belisle

    Bench:

    Hopper
    Dickerson
    Valentine
    Keppy
    Hatteberg

    Thoughts
    I think the reds go with 12 pitchers to start the season and I have a feeling that Bailey will impress this spring. I want to see Roenike on the roster but I think he sees a little time in AAA until someone goes down. I think if the rule V guy shows something he will find his way on the 25 man roster. Freel I want gone. His contract pays him too much and I would much rather see Hopper as the 4th OF and Keppy as the 5th IF. I put Dickerson on the roster as a defensive replacement and also a pinch runner. I think Dusty is going to stress good, smart, aggressive base running and I think Dickerson will find a spot doing that.

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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    what I would like tempered with a dose of realism

    Harang
    Arroyo
    Belisle
    Volquez
    Affeldt

    Cordero
    Cueto
    Burton
    Weathers
    Bray
    Stanton
    Fogg

    Votto
    Phillips
    Keppinger
    Encarnacion
    Dunn
    Bruce
    Jr
    Ross

    Hatteberg
    Freel
    Hopper
    Gonzalez
    Valentin
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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post

    Starting 8
    1B Votto
    2B BP
    3B EE
    SS Agon
    LF Dunn
    CF Bruce
    RF Jr.
    C Ross

    Rotation
    Harang
    Arroyo
    Belisle
    Volquez
    Fogg (unless one of the kids kicks the door down in ST)

    Pen
    Cordero
    Weathers
    Burton
    Cout
    Affeldt
    Roenicke
    Coffey

    Bench
    Hatte
    Kepp
    Javy
    Hopper
    Freel.

    I think you have pretty much hit the nail on the head here, the only exception I could possibly see is Bailey possibly replacing Volquez in the starting five and then Volquez either starting in Long Relief/Spot Start in the Bullpen or either move to the number 5 spot and then Fogg gets moved to the pen to the same role as a spot starter/long reliever. This would mean that more than likely Coutlangous (sp?) would start the season at AAA. I truly think that Roenicke has really impressed the coaches and most everybody else this first week at Spring Training and barring him just flat out blowing it during the rest of the way, I think he may just have secured him a spot in Cincy on Opening Day, although he may be on a shorter leash than other as the Reds for the first time in quite sometime have guys competing for spots well after the season and have heat on the starters and relievers in AAA if they don't perform. This is something that I definitely like to have!

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    Re: What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    Don't think Bruce will be starting in CF on opening day. May not even be on the roster.

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    What should be/What WILL be the Reds Opening Day 25 man roster? (predictions etc.

    My prediction of what will be:

    Harang
    Arroyo
    Belisle
    Volquez
    Fogg

    Cordero
    Burton
    Weathers
    Affeldt
    Coffey
    Majik
    Stanton

    Ross
    Votto
    Phillips
    Gonzo
    EE
    Dunn
    Freel
    Griffey

    Hopper
    Valentine
    Kep
    Hatteberg
    Kenny Lofton or Corey Patterson




    As to what I would like to see:

    Harang
    Arroyo
    Belisle
    Volquez
    Fogg

    Cordero
    Burton
    Weathers
    Affeldt
    .
    .
    .

    Ross
    Votto
    Phillips
    Gonzo
    EE
    Dunn
    Bruce
    Griffey

    Hopper
    Valentine
    Kep
    Hatteberg
    Freel

    As to the last three bullpen spots the three guys I want to see the least are Coffey, Stanton & Majik. I would like to see the spots go to whoever pitches the best this spring out of:
    Coutlangas, McBeth, Salmon, Pelland & Roenicke.

    I too would like to see either/both Hat or Freel traded if we got back someone who helped our bench more. ie RH power bat and more flexible LH bat
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