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    targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Excluding their #1 prospect, who would you go after?

    A guy I see slipping under the radar is Houston's Chance Douglass. Had a very good year going at AA, but got killed after being promoted to AAA. The PCL can be an abrupt wake up call. his numbers at AA though... 80 ip, 70 hits, 21 BB's 1.13 WHIP. His 7.31 K/9 at AA isn't by any means overpowering, but he's an interesting pitcher.
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    check out Chicago White Sox's Jack Egbert:

    Code:
    Year Team Lg Age Org Level   W L ERA G GS CG SH GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK  H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP GB% 
    2005 Kannapolis SAL 22 Chw A   10 5 3.12 30 24 4 3  0 147.0 127 66 51 5 48 107 10 0  7.78 0.31 2.94 6.55 1.19 -- 
    2006 Winst-Salm Caro 23 Chw A+   9 8 2.69 25 25 0 0 0 0 140.2 128 57 42 2 46 120 2 0  8.19 0.13 2.94 7.68 1.24 -- 
      Birmingham Sou 23 Chw AA   0 2 0.86 4 4 0 0 0 0 21.0 17 4 2 0 8 24 1 0  7.29 0.00 3.43 10.29 1.19 -- 
    2007 Birmingham Sou 24 Chw AA   12 8 3.06 28 28 0 0 0 0 161.2 138 63 55 3 44 165 6 0  7.68 0.17 2.45 9.19 1.13 -- 
     
    Minor League Totals - 4 Season(s) 35 24 2.93 104 90 4 3  0 529.0 461 215 172 12 179 468 23   7.84 0.20 3.05 7.96 1.21 --
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    check out Chicago White Sox's Jack Egbert:

    Code:
    Year Team Lg Age Org Level   W L ERA G GS CG SH GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK  H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP GB% 
    2005 Kannapolis SAL 22 Chw A   10 5 3.12 30 24 4 3  0 147.0 127 66 51 5 48 107 10 0  7.78 0.31 2.94 6.55 1.19 -- 
    2006 Winst-Salm Caro 23 Chw A+   9 8 2.69 25 25 0 0 0 0 140.2 128 57 42 2 46 120 2 0  8.19 0.13 2.94 7.68 1.24 -- 
      Birmingham Sou 23 Chw AA   0 2 0.86 4 4 0 0 0 0 21.0 17 4 2 0 8 24 1 0  7.29 0.00 3.43 10.29 1.19 -- 
    2007 Birmingham Sou 24 Chw AA   12 8 3.06 28 28 0 0 0 0 161.2 138 63 55 3 44 165 6 0  7.68 0.17 2.45 9.19 1.13 -- 
     
    Minor League Totals - 4 Season(s) 35 24 2.93 104 90 4 3  0 529.0 461 215 172 12 179 468 23   7.84 0.20 3.05 7.96 1.21 --
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    I like a lot of guys. Limiting the list to guys who may be obtainable because of an established guy in front of them and who play spots where the Reds are really thin in the system.

    Taylor Teagarden - C - Texas #4 (Saltalamacchia)
    Chris Nelson - SS - Colorado #7 (Tulowitzki)
    Justin Maxwell - CF- Washington #8 (Milledge)
    John Jaso - C- Tampa Bay #13 (Navarro)
    Wilson Ramos - C - Minnesota #3 (Mauer)
    Delwyn Young - OF - LA Dodgers #9 (Kemp, Ethier, Pierre)
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Justin Maxwell - CF- Washington #8 (Milledge)
    I thought about him when the Nats made those trades. But he reminds me of Dickerson too much.

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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Delwyn Young - OF - LA Dodgers #9 (Kemp, Ethier, Pierre)
    And Andruw Jones.
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Is Young still a 2b prospect or did they completely give that up?

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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I like a lot of guys. Limiting the list to guys who may be obtainable because of an established guy in front of them and who play spots where the Reds are really thin in the system.

    Taylor Teagarden - C - Texas #4 (Saltalamacchia)
    Chris Nelson - SS - Colorado #7 (Tulowitzki)
    Justin Maxwell - CF- Washington #8 (Milledge)
    John Jaso - C- Tampa Bay #13 (Navarro)
    Wilson Ramos - C - Minnesota #3 (Mauer)
    Delwyn Young - OF - LA Dodgers #9 (Kemp, Ethier, Pierre)
    Chris Nelson is as well known as most Reds prospects on this Reds board. He started a holy war once.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by Bip Roberts View Post
    Is Young still a 2b prospect or did they completely give that up?
    I think they look at Young as a corner player because he doesn't run well. He isn't considered a guy for CF (which is why I didn't list Andruw Jones as a guy blocking him), but might be a guy for RF after Griffey is gone. He could probably still play 2b in a pinch and I wonder if he could also play 3B occassionally (but I've never heard of him being tried there). It would be nice to have a guy who could hit LH in the mix for those IF spots when somebody needs a rest. He is probably a platoon guy who hits well as LH Hitter and struggled against LH Pitching until last year. I only list him because he obviously has nowhere to play in LA and I think he may be out of options. I wonder if he's a guy the Reds could steal and stash on the bench as a LHPH and extra OF. He doesn't walk much and I'd rather get a guy who can play CF, but with Dunn and Griffey potentially gone after 2008, the Reds will need an OF who has some offensive ability even if the Reds can keep one of them.
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by AvesIce51 View Post
    I thought about him when the Nats made those trades. But he reminds me of Dickerson too much.
    Maxwell was hurt a lot in college and also in 2006 when he started out in pro ball. In 2007 he was a little old for his competition but put up .301/.389/.579 in A Ball in about 235 PA and .263/.338/.491 in about 250 PA. I don't recall Dickerson ever putting up that kind of production. He probably spends 2008 in AA and maybe AAA if he does well and could be ready for the OF mix about when the Reds will have some openings there. He's not a guy that I would give up a ton for, but maybe he can be had for a guy that the Reds don't have room for that may deserve a major league job. With all the pitchers in camp who knows what happens. Todd Coffey could be squeezed out in Cincy and he does go back to the Bowden era. I could see the Nats being interested. Same for Brad Salmon. Either of those guys would help the Nats pen.
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Taylor Teagarden - C - Texas #4 (Saltalamacchia)
    Chris Nelson - SS - Colorado #7 (Tulowitzki)
    Justin Maxwell - CF- Washington #8 (Milledge)
    John Jaso - C- Tampa Bay #13 (Navarro)
    Wilson Ramos - C - Minnesota #3 (Mauer)
    Delwyn Young - OF - LA Dodgers #9 (Kemp, Ethier, Pierre)
    Nice list, especially the catchers. If Nelson continues to progress, Colorado will probably slide him over to 2B. Ramos is still young, and I think Minnesota will hold onto him while they wait and see how well Mauer knees hold up over the next couple of years. Don't know much about Jaso.....neither do I know how strongly TB is committed to Navarro.

    I really think Teagarden could be available for the right price. Probably pitching.
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Pitching, pitching, pitching.

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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I like a lot of guys. Limiting the list to guys who may be obtainable because of an established guy in front of them and who play spots where the Reds are really thin in the system.

    Taylor Teagarden - C - Texas #4 (Saltalamacchia)
    Chris Nelson - SS - Colorado #7 (Tulowitzki)
    Justin Maxwell - CF- Washington #8 (Milledge)
    John Jaso - C- Tampa Bay #13 (Navarro)
    Wilson Ramos - C - Minnesota #3 (Mauer)
    Delwyn Young - OF - LA Dodgers #9 (Kemp, Ethier, Pierre)
    I think had the Reds been targeting or willing to pay the price for Teagarden the Hamilton trade would have included him.

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    I think had the Reds been targeting or willing to pay the price for Teagarden the Hamilton trade would have included him.
    Very possible. However, it may have added a complication that they just couldn't work out at the time. The fact that Krivsky and Daniels were able to close a deal at all makes me somewhat hopeful they could do it again.
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    Re: targeting other teams minor leaguers

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Very possible. However, it may have added a complication that they just couldn't work out at the time. The fact that Krivsky and Daniels were able to close a deal at all makes me somewhat hopeful they could do it again.
    Or Texas may want more time to see Salty before being comfortable moving Teagarden


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