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    Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Hal McCoy was just on Charlie Steiner's XM show.

    When asked about Homer Bailey he said....."Homer is a little bit of a headcase. He doesn't like to listen to people. He might get a dose of Louisville..."
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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    I thought Dusty Baker said the opposite of that the other day?

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    He might get a dose of Louisville...
    I'd be stunned if he doesn't.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    If Homer turns out to be good, this will someday be viewed as knowing his job and being strong willed and determined.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    If Homer turns out to be good, this will someday be viewed as knowing his job and being strong willed and determined.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    I opined last year that *maybe* part of the sudden about face regarding starting Homer might be to teach him a lesson that he needs to listen to their advice, he can't do it all his own way, he has to work on controll, etc. Sometimes hard-headed people have to learn the hard way and letting him get thrashed a bit was to show him that he doesn't have it all figured out.

    Not saying this is proof that I was correct, but maybe my tea-leaves reading was closer to being right than wrong.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    Hal McCoy was just on Charlie Steiner's XM show.

    When asked about Homer Bailey he said....."Homer is a little bit of a headcase. He doesn't like to listen to people. He might get a dose of Louisville..."

    I heard the same thing last year from a friend who went down to ST and talked to Brantley.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I heard the same thing last year from a friend who went down to ST and talked to Brantley.
    I channeled Farney once, and he basically said the same. He has a squeaky voice.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    I wouldn't call that being a headcase, I'd call it immaturity. Why people expect a baseball player to be more mature in their approach to taking instruction than the general population, I have no idea. Homer seems to be acting his age, which is another reason that he should not be depended upon this season but continue to learn and mature mentally and physically.

    But then, I guess Hal has never been one to avoid overdramatizing a topic.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    I opined last year that *maybe* part of the sudden about face regarding starting Homer might be to teach him a lesson that he needs to listen to their advice, he can't do it all his own way, he has to work on controll, etc. Sometimes hard-headed people have to learn the hard way and letting him get thrashed a bit was to show him that he doesn't have it all figured out.

    Not saying this is proof that I was correct, but maybe my tea-leaves reading was closer to being right than wrong.
    Interesting, especially if he wasn't healthy. Sorta of like, we know you aren't at your best, but your seeing how crappy your way is, we are going to teach you a lessen.

    That may explain the more "mentor-student" thing going on this spring with Pole.

    That said, Bailey will always be a bit crazy IMO. That has its upsides.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    John Fay alluded (somewhat) to this the other day after trying to interview Homer.

    Why do I have this sinking feeling that Homer will struggle off and on and show flashes of brilliance but never really dominate until it's his free agency year. Then, he will walk away from the Reds because of bad feelings towards the team for not letting him do it 'his way'. He'll sign with someone else and be gangbusters.

    I just got up so maybe that was just a bad dream I had last night.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    I have no problem with Homer being a head case as long as he doesn't turn into a Brett Tomko.

    I have heard conflicting stories about Homer's behavior and I am not going to cast him in any light. I simply haven't seen or heard enough. I doubt any one person on this board has.

    One POSITIVE story about Homer is when he went to work in Sarasota last year to recover from his groin issues. Tom Brown, the former Marlins Pitching Coordinator, stayed with him the entire time. Homer worked with him DAILY on mechanics, approach to hitters, grips, his breaking ball you name it. When Homer came back to the Reds his delivery was noticeably improved and like magic his breaking balls were getting over for strikes. Obviously the kid listens well enough at times to grasp what he is being taught.

    My contention for the last 4-5 years is that there have been numerous coaches in the organization that couldn't help a high school team much less a Homer Bailey. As I have noticed this season looking at the coaches in camp that situation has improved somewhat. Players know who is full of it and who they "WANT" to listen too. Something tells me Homer may not be as dumb as some people think.
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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Homer's always been a head case. That's not really news. I'll go out on a limb and posit that most very good pitchers are head cases. Now, that doesn't mean Bailey will be a very good pitcher, just that him being a difficult human is far from a disqualifier.

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    Sal Maglie was a "Head Case"... Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton, Dizzy Dean, Dolph Luque.... and on and on....

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    Re: Hal McCoy on XM..... "Homer is a little bit of a head case..."

    This is what Baker said earlier in ST.

    There were whispers last year that Bailey wasn't very coachable. Baker hasn't seen that.

    “Sometimes you need to fail to really listen," Baker said. "He’s been all ears basically, which you like in a young player. But sometimes they have to fail before they listen.”


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