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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    And of course saying positive things about Cueto and Volquez indicates that you hate Homer Bailey. I mean, that's just plain as day.
    I think it's great that the Reds have 3 prospects (there's that word again), at this level...it's been a while.

    Now, we see what they end up being....right now, it looks like Cueto is the top dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    right now, it looks like Cueto is the top dog.
    Why must you bust on Homer Bailey like that?
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Why must you bust on Homer Bailey like that?
    I'm a hater

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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Why must you bust on Homer Bailey like that?
    I think it's a preternatural bias against Texans.

    At least it is for me
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Now, we see what they end up being....right now, it looks like Cueto is the top dog.
    Right now I think they rank like this:

    1. Johnny Cueto
    2. Edinson Volquez (slightly behind Cueto)
    3. Homer Bailey

    But that could quickly change. Homer Bailey clearly has the stuff and talent to be an incredible pitcher, but right now he ranks behind Cueto and Volquez because of inconsistent command. If he improves that, and I believe he will, he'll most likely jump to the top of the list. I'm just happy to have three guys with this type of talent in the organization.

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    FWIW, I agree with FCB that the rotation will be in transition this season. My guess is one kid wins a rotation slot to start the season and a second will work his way in before the season ends, putting the third on a 2009 timetable (and not necessarily the start of 2009 either).
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    I don't want Fogg or Affeldt in the rotation. Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see both of them there.
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    I agree, I just wonder if he'll have a somewhat shorter leash than I initially thought.
    I actually completely agree with this. I think Belisle has been given a spot basically, but he's going to be under a lot of pressure the entire time. We'll see if he performs.

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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    No one said that, but it's funny how every poster under the age of 30 has saucer eyes for Homer without any caveats.
    I'm under 30, I think Homer needs a full season in AAA.
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I'm under 30, I think Homer needs a full season in AAA.
    Same here

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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Affeldt
    Fogg
    Mercker
    Sidney Ponson
    Brian Reith

    Don't say I didn't tell you so come April

    (All sarcasm aside, sad thing is, THAT rotation may be better than some of the rotations we've thrown out there this decade. Elmer Dessens for staff ace, anyone?)

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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    Quote Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS View Post
    I don't want Fogg or Affeldt in the rotation. Unfortunately, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see both of them there.
    In the long run, that might be in the best interest of the Reds and the youngsters. I think Volquez will get every opportunity to make the rotation, but Cueto and Bailey will have to pitch too well to be kept from the rotation.

    There was a time, back in the 1960's and early '70's, when the Reds actually could develop starting pitchers. Unfortunately, Jim O'Toole, Gary Nolan, Don Gullett, and Wayne Simpson all burned out too early in their careers. It better to let some fruits ripen on the vine than to pick it too early. But, like Christmas presents always hidden in the same closet, it is very, very tempting...
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    I'm 37, and don't have saucer eyes for Bailey. What I do have for Bailey is the sense that the press and a good segment of this board need to chill out, let him see where he's at, and go from there. This very Cincinnati desire to create issues out of nothing and denigrate talent always makes me shake my head.

    And, yes, there has been a silly rush to find and magnify flaws with Bailey. From Fay, to McCoy, to certain people on this board.

    The known with Bailey:

    1. He's considered extremely talented.
    2. He's got good velocity and a sharp curve.
    3. He's working on command and needs more of that.
    4. He's apparently not uber-pleasant to talk to.

    Of those four things, the most important is clearly #3. He will likely be asked to work on it in AAA. At the ripe old age of 21, it would appear he has plenty of time to realize his talent. I just don't get the rush to villify him that has pervaded discussions of him for a long time now.

    Oh, and I am dead positive #4 doesn't mean a gosh darn thing.
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    fearofpopvol1, could you maybe edit the title of this thread?

    I think we should be able to do better than "Who do you got..."
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    Re: Who do you got as the Reds starting rotation for opening day?

    My best guess with three weeks to go:

    Harang
    Arroyo
    Fogg
    Cueto (my hunch based on the drool coming from his manager's mouth)
    Volquez

    Belisle in long relief.
    Affeldt in long relief too.

    Bailey in AAA with Maloney.


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