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    Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Stick to your guns.


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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Everyone's mimicking the genius.

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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    If this is going to be in vogue throughout the division, maybe Corey Patterson can be the Reds' #9 hitter?
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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    I see the argument they're trying to make. But I can't stop thinking about the number of plate appearances this is going to cost a guy like Kendall. If they're sold on his versatility with the bat, why take it out of his hand several dozen times a year?

    I can see the sense in flipping the 8 and 9 guys, just because it will give the top of the order more chances to drive in runs, but why take a guy from the top and move him all the way to the bottom? I'm sure there are some here much smarter than me that can explain it. I'm just at a loss.
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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    If the theory is that the worst hitter on your team should bat 8th, isn't that the perfect spot for Kendall?

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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Dunn should bat 9th. All those solo homers would just make it a perfect +1 run spot.
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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    If this is going to be in vogue throughout the division, maybe Corey Patterson can be the Reds' #9 hitter?
    Patterson, Castro, Ross, we have a lot of competition for the 9th spot.
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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Patterson, Castro, Ross, we have a lot of competition for the 9th spot.
    Castro should be in the 11 spot - at the highest.

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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Bravo Ned Yost. Yost, Bob Melvin (bullpen usage), Manny Acta (OBP emphasis & approach). It's happening slowly, but analytically derived strategies are finding advocates in active managers. It's interesting to me the way in which analytical people are labeled by certain people -- be it respectful or hostile.

    "You've had a lot of smart people looking at it and crunching numbers and seeing if, numbers-wise, it made sense."

    Those smart people decided that batting Kendall ninth, a departure from the conventional baseball wisdom of batting the pitcher in the final spot, did make sense. They thought it gave the Brewers an edge, which should translate into an opportunity to score more runs.

    "More runs means more wins," Yost said. "Sometimes, you've gotta get outside the box a little bit."
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Quote Originally Posted by MrCinatit View Post
    Castro should be in the 11 spot - at the highest.
    I was thinking 26th
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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I was thinking 26th
    42nd in my book. Right behind Stanton at 41.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Bravo Ned Yost. Yost, Bob Melvin (bullpen usage), Manny Acta (OBP emphasis & approach). It's happening slowly, but analytically derived strategies are finding advocates in active managers. It's interesting to me the way in which analytical people are labeled by certain people -- be it respectful or hostile.
    As if this is a new wave? Managers have always been thinking through things and looking at numbers to make decisions, obviously at varying levels. This isn't a new thing, its just publicized more because of places like this. One of our very own, known as "Captain Hook" wrote the book on modern bullpen usage patterns with the BRM, just as one example.

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    Re: Jason Kendall will bat 9th for the Brewers

    If your pitcher is likely to go only five and bat maybe once, I can maybe see the strategy. Otherwise, jeesh...
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