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    Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    CINCINNATI REDS—Sold Rule 5 draftee RHP Sergio Valenzuela back to Atlanta. Optioned RHP Ramon Ramirez to Louisville (IL).

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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    Not a surprise. I suppose it was worth the gamble.
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    I'm shocked. He was soooo gooood.
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    I'm always glad to see them take a shot.
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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    So the Reds paid the Braves $50,000 at the time of the Rule 5 draft and sold Valenzuela back to the Braves for $25,000.

    Another way to look at this $25,000 loss is that the Reds could make 78 more rolls of the dice like this on Rule 5 Picks and still not have spent as much as they just spent for 16 year-old Juan Duran.
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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    So the Reds paid the Braves $50,000 at the time of the Rule 5 draft and sold Valenzuela back to the Braves for $25,000.

    Another way to look at this $25,000 loss is that the Reds could make 78 more rolls of the dice like this on Rule 5 Picks and still not have spent as much as they just spent for 16 year-old Juan Duran.
    OR..

    They could have kept Carlos Guervara and the $50K.
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    He was worth a shot...now he will be the second coming of Nolan ryan and go on to play in the MLB for 40 years with a career era of 2.13.

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    so would this be a defeat for scouting over objective analysis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    He was worth a shot
    not by any objective measure. It would not be possible to be any worse without getting released.
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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    I second the thought that Carlos Guevara was worth protecting. I guarantee is he better than some of the arms we will trot out this year.

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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    Not a big deal, IMO. The thing I do like about it is that the Reds made a decision relatively early and moved on.

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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    I picked this up on the Padres mailbag dated today on their website:

    How much of a chance do you give pitcher Carlos Guevara of making the Opening Day roster, especially with the injury he recently suffered? I know he was something of a hot commodity in the Rule 5 Draft and I love the idea of having a screwballer on the team. What do you think?
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    Guevara was an early casualty in camp, sidelined by a nagging hamstring strain that he suffered in the first few days of drills. He was only recently cleared to pitch in games, and threw a scoreless inning in his Cactus League debut last week. He'll likely get more chances to show the staff what he's capable of as we move forward into spring. He isn't on the trip to China, so he should get regular relief work (every other day). I like the idea of the screwball, as well. And since he's a Rule 5 guy, Guevara has to stick on the roster all year or be offered back to the Reds for $25,000. That doesn't mean the team will carry him all year just for the sake of not losing him. Guevara has to pitch well enough, like everyone else, to earn a spot.
    My guess is that initially Guevara starts the season on the DL, buying the Padres some time.
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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    OR..

    They could have kept Carlos Guervara and the $50K.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    My guess is that initially Guevara starts the season on the DL, buying the Padres some time.
    funny that a team that generally has had one of the better pens in baseball can try and find room for a draftee from the Reds who over the last few years have had one of the worst pens in baseball.
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    Re: Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

    And Guervara might just as easily end up back on the Reds...

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