Rule 5 draftee returned to Braves

[Mainspark]

Valenzuela gets moved for the second time today....


ATLANTA BRAVES—Traded RHP Sergio Valenzuela to Monclova (Mexican) for future considerations.

[lollipopcurve]

My guess is that initially Guevara starts the season on the DL, buying the Padres some time.

If the Pads are going to contend, he's going to have to perform -- or, dagnabit, keep tweaking that hamstring.

[RedsManRick]

Big surprise. I know Rule V picks are a shot in the dark, but I don't think I've ever seen one darker.

[princeton]

Valenzuela gets moved for the second time today....


ATLANTA BRAVES—Traded RHP Sergio Valenzuela to Monclova (Mexican) for future considerations.

future considerations were worth more than $25K?

or just wanted to stick it to the Reds?

regardless, I'm guessing that the Reds were the day's big winners.

[*BaseClogger*]

funny that a team that generally has had one of the better pens in baseball can try and find room for a draftee from the Reds who over the last few years have had one of the worst pens in baseball.

IMO the Padres are the epitome of how to build a bullpen. The Reds... not so much...

[Matt700wlw]

Hamilton he wasn't.

[cincrazy]

IMO the Padres are the epitome of how to build a bullpen. The Reds... not so much...

Well, judging by very recent history. But for a number of years, the Reds had one of the better bullpens in the NL, so they haven't been inept for all that long at the business.

[redsmetz]

future considerations were worth more than $25K?

or just wanted to stick it to the Reds?

regardless, I'm guessing that the Reds were the day's big winners.

We couldn't have made the trade to a non-ML club without first offering him back to the Braves, and if they didn't want him, he'd have to have cleared waivers before we could have done anything like this.

[*BaseClogger*]

Well, judging by very recent history. But for a number of years, the Reds had one of the better bullpens in the NL, so they haven't been inept for all that long at the business.

They may have had some good bullpens, but their recent attempts at building 'pens through free agency is not the way to do it IMO...

[cincrazy]

They may have had some good bullpens, but their recent attempts at building 'pens through free agency is not the way to do it IMO...

Completely agree with that. They need to get back to developing the likes of Sullivan, Williamson, and Graves (although Graves came up with the Tribe organization, he flourished under us early on).

[Danny Serafini]

Not keeping Guevara is irrelevant to picking Valenzuela. One move did not preclude the other. That said, picking Valenzuela was a waste of money the second that pick was made.

[Unassisted]

Not keeping Guevara is irrelevant to picking Valenzuela. One move did not preclude the other.

That's what I was thinking. The opportunity cost of protecting Guevara in the Rule 5 Draft might have been the loss of a more desirable player.

[Sea Ray]

My guess is that initially Guevara starts the season on the DL, buying the Padres some time.

Don't forget that there's now a "Bowden" rule that keeps teams from stashing Rule 5 guys on the DL:

To prevent the abuse of the Rule 5 draft, the rule also states that the draftee must be active for at least 90 days. This keeps teams from drafting players, then placing them on the disabled list for the majority of the season. For example, if a Rule 5 draftee was only active for 67 days in his first season with his new club, he must be active for an additional 23 games in his second season to satisfy the Rule 5 requirements.

Any player chosen in the Rule 5 draft may be traded to any team while under the Rule 5 restrictions, but the restrictions transfer to the new team. If the new team does not want to keep the player on its 25-man roster for the season, he must be offered back to the team of which he was a member when chosen in the draft.

Yeah, the Pads can start him off on the DL but they can't stash him there all year. It's still entirely possible we'll get this guy back and it won't even cost us a spot on the 40 man

[Screwball]

For example, if a Rule 5 draftee was only active for 67 days in his first season with his new club, he must be active for an additional 23 games in his second season to satisfy the Rule 5 requirements.

So, essentially, a player has two full seasons to play 90 games on the MLB club?

[princeton]

We couldn't have made the trade to a non-ML club without first offering him back to the Braves, and if they didn't want him, he'd have to have cleared waivers before we could have done anything like this.

dude-- the Braves paid $25K for him, then sent him to Monclova
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