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    Real Death Star Could Strike Earth

    Real Death Star Could Strike Earth
    By Charles Q. Choi
    Special to SPACE.com
    posted: 10 March 2008
    12:13 am ET


    A beautiful pinwheel in space might one day blast Earth with death rays, scientists now report.

    Unlike the moon-sized Death Star from Star Wars, which has to get close to a planet to blast it, this blazing spiral has the potential to burn worlds from thousands of light-years away.

    "I used to appreciate this spiral just for its beautiful form, but now I can't help a twinge of feeling that it is uncannily like looking down a rifle barrel," said researcher Peter Tuthill, an astronomer at the University of Sydney.

    The fiery pinwheel in space in question has at its heart a pair of hot, luminous stars locked in orbit with each other. As they circle one another, plumes of streaming gas driven from the surfaces of the stars collide in the intervening space, eventually becoming entangled and twisted into a whirling spiral by the orbits of the stars.

    Short fuse

    The pinwheel, named WR 104, was discovered eight years ago in the constellation Sagittarius. It rotates in a circle "every eight months, keeping precise time like a jewel in a cosmic clock," Tuthill said.

    Both the massive stars in WR 104 will one day explode as supernovae. However, one of the pair is a highly unstable star known as a Wolf-Rayet, the last known stable phase in the life of these massive stars right before a supernova.

    "Wolf-Rayet stars are regarded by astronomers as ticking bombs," Tuthill explained. The 'fuse' for this star "is now very short to an astronomer and it may explode any time within the next few hundred thousand years."

    When the Wolf-Rayet goes supernova, "it could emit an intense beam of gamma rays coming our way," Tuthill said. "If such a 'gamma ray burst' happens, we really do not want Earth to be in the way."

    Since the initial blast would travel at the speed of light, there would be no warning of its arrival.

    Firing line

    Gamma ray bursts are the most powerful explosions known in the universe. They can loose as much energy as our sun during its entire 10 billion year lifetime in anywhere from milliseconds to a minute or more.

    The spooky thing about this pinwheel is that it appears to be a nearly perfect spiral to us, according to new images taken with the Keck Telescope in Hawaii. "It could only appear like that if we are looking nearly exactly down on the axis of the binary system," Tuthill said.

    The findings are detailed in the March 1 issue of Astrophysical Journal.

    Unfortunately for us, gamma ray bursts seem to be shot right along the axis of systems. In essence, if this pinwheel ever releases a gamma ray burst, our planet might be in the firing line.

    "This is the first object that we know of that might release a gamma ray burst at us," said astrophysicist Adrian Melott at the University of Kansas in Lawrence, who did not participate in this study. "And it's close enough to do some damage."

    This pinwheel is about 8,000 light years away, roughly a quarter of the way to the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. While this might seem far, "earlier research has suggested that a gamma ray burst if we are unfortunate enough to be caught in the beam could be harmful to life on Earth out to these distances," Tuthill said.

    What might happen

    Although the pinwheel can't blast Earth apart like the Death Star from Star Wars at least not from 8,000 light years away it could still cause mass extinction or possibly even threaten life as we know it on our planet.

    Gamma rays would not penetrate Earth's atmosphere well to burn the ground, but they would chemically damage the stratosphere. Melott estimates that if WR 104 were to hit us with a burst 10 seconds or so long, its gamma rays could deplete about 25 percent of the world's ozone layer, which protects us from damaging ultraviolet rays. In comparison, the recent human-caused thinning of the ozone layer, creating "holes" over the polar regions, have only been depletions of about 3 to 4 percent, he explained.

    "So that would be very bad," Melott told SPACE.com. "You'd see extinctions. You might see food chain collapses in the oceans, might see agricultural crises with starvation."

    Gamma ray bursts would also trigger smog formation that could blot out sunlight and rain down acid. However, at 8,000 light-years away, "there's probably not a large enough effect there for much of a darkening effect," Melott estimated. "It'd probably cut off 1 or 2 percent of total sunlight. It might cool the climate somewhat, but it wouldn't be a catastrophic ice age kind of thing."

    Cosmic ray danger

    One unknown about gamma ray bursts is how many particles they spew as cosmic rays.

    "Normally the gamma ray bursts we see are so far away that magnetic fields out in the universe deflect any cosmic rays we might observe from them, but if a gamma ray burst was pretty close, any high-energy particles would blast right through the galaxy's magnetic field and hit us," Melott said. "Their energies would be so high, they would arrive at almost the same time as the light burst."

    "The side of the Earth facing the gamma ray burst would experience something like getting irradiated by a not-too-distant nuclear explosion, and organisms on that side might see radiation sickness. And the cosmic rays would make the atmospheric effects of a gamma ray burst worse," Melott added. "But we just don't know how many cosmic rays gamma ray bursts emit, so that's a danger that's not really understood."

    It remains uncertain just how wide the beams of energy that gamma ray bursts release are. However, any cone of devastation from the pinwheel would likely be several hundred square light-years wide by the time it reached Earth, Melott estimated. Tuthill told SPACE.com "it would be pretty much impossible to for anyone to get far enough to be out of the beam in a spaceship if it really is coming our way."

    Don't worry

    Still, Tuthill noted this pinwheel might not be the death of us.

    "There are still plenty of uncertainties the beam could pass harmlessly to the side if we are not exactly on the axis, and nobody is even sure if stars like WR 104 are capable of producing a fully-fledged gamma-ray burst in the first place," he explained.

    Future research should focus on whether WR 104 really is pointed at Earth and on better understanding how supernovae produce gamma ray bursts.

    Melott and others have speculated that gamma ray bursts might have caused mass extinctions on Earth. But when it comes to whether this pinwheel might pose a danger to us, "I would worry a lot more about global warming," Melott said.

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    Re: Real Death Star Could Strike Earth

    Okay, it's 8,000 light years away. The gamma rays travel at the speed of light. So, it blows up this afternoon, we die.

    In 8,000 years.

    Am I reading that right, or should I dig a hole now?
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    Where's the thermal exhaust port?
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    Re: Real Death Star Could Strike Earth

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    Okay, it's 8,000 light years away. The gamma rays travel at the speed of light. So, it blows up this afternoon, we die.

    In 8,000 years.

    Am I reading that right, or should I dig a hole now?

    Digging a hole might not be a bad idea - it could have blown up 8,000 years ago and we don't know it yet.


    But, the article keeps using the word "nearly" a lot, as in the spiral is "nearly" pointing towards Earth. In astronomical terms, "nearly" can mean several hundred light years. Even if we are out of the bullseye by a small fraction of a percent, the amount of distance between us and that star would put is easily within the safety zone. We have a better chance of being hit by an asteroid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Where's the thermal exhaust port?
    That won't matter it's only 2 meters wide. It's impossible even for a computer.
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    Gamma Rays huh? So what they're saying is that there's a chance we all might get Incredible Hulk powers. Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCinatit View Post
    Digging a hole might not be a bad idea - it could have blown up 8,000 years ago and we don't know it yet.
    That is totally why I am not a scientist. Smart enough to know what light years are, too dumb to know how to actually count by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    That won't matter it's only 2 meters wide. It's impossible even for a computer.
    No problem for anyone who can hit a wamprat. (Is that how it's spelled?)

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    I always look at these things and just laugh. I can't do anything about it so why worry?
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    I hate reading things like this. They just seem to have so many if statements. The odds that something like this will happen to earth in my lifetime are small, but they do exist. I don't see how worrying about it is going to make it better though. I'm going to keep living one atbat at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldRightHander View Post
    No problem for anyone who can hit a wamprat. (Is that how it's spelled?)
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    Actually, we're fine. I told Grand Moff Tarkin that the Rebel base was on Dantooine. However, Princess Leia's home planet of Alderaan may still be in danger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonny View Post
    Actually, we're fine. I told Grand Moff Tarkin that the Rebel base was on Dantooine. However, Princess Leia's home planet of Alderaan may still be in danger.
    My cousin is from Dantooine. So, thanks. Guess I won't have to send her a Christmas card this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    My cousin is from Dantooine. So, thanks. Guess I won't have to send her a Christmas card this year.
    But there is going to be a Christmas on Kashyyyk, right? If not, little Lumpie will be so disappointed.


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