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    Re: Janish?

    It takes a lot of extra grounders to add up to 300 points of OPS.

    As far as I'm concerned: Gonzalez > Keppinger > Janish > Dusty Baker > Castro. But if starting Janish means we get to cut Castro, then by all means Janish.

    Let's keep in mind than Janish hit .221/.278/.317 in AAA and .244/.358/.330 in AA last year. He basically is what Juan Castro used to be.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Janish?

    Janish is Juan Castro with a better glove at 40% of the cost.

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    That's true about Castro, but unless another team will take him, I don't see the Reds just blowing a mill. One can dream, though.

    If Gonzo is down, I think Keppinger should be the starter and Janish the backup.

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    Re: Janish?

    it's too bad that nobody in his right mind would throw Janish a ball. He has clogged the bases at lower levels.

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    Re: Janish?

    Janish is simply not going to hit major league pitching... His defense cannot make up for the difference in OPS between he and Keppinger...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Janish?

    Paul Janish is certainly no Jeff Keppinger (who is probably very overrated by Reds fans right now, but nonetheless), but he's willing to take a walk (unlike Castro) and plays above average defense (also, more arguably, unlike Juan Castro). Personally, I don't mind the idea of the two main bench infielders of the Reds' future being Keppinger (the offensive specialist) and Janish (the defensive specialist).

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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Personally, I don't mind the idea of the two main bench infielders of the Reds' future being Keppinger (the offensive specialist) and Janish (the defensive specialist).

    If one believes that Votto cannot hit lefties, you could stick Kepp at 1st against lefties and Janish at SS and the rest of the time play Kepp at short and Votto at 1st.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Paul Janish is certainly no Jeff Keppinger (who is probably very overrated by Reds fans right now, but nonetheless)
    Reds fans aren't the only ones in love with Jeff Keppinger:

    http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...gned_phillips/

    that is a good read I should have posted back when Phillips was re-signed. The post isn't very long, but the comments section gives you a good feel for how outsiders feel about the Reds...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    I fail to see any difference between Keppinger and Freddy Sanchez other than opportunity. Those two are scarily similar.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Janish?

    Dude, Keppinger's a baseclogger. Look at that OBP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    Dude, Keppinger's a baseclogger. Look at that OBP.

    Channeling Dusty now, are we?
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    Re: Janish?

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Paul Janish is certainly no Jeff Keppinger (who is probably very overrated by Reds fans right now, but nonetheless), but he's willing to take a walk (unlike Castro) and plays above average defense (also, more arguably, unlike Juan Castro). Personally, I don't mind the idea of the two main bench infielders of the Reds' future being Keppinger (the offensive specialist) and Janish (the defensive specialist).
    I think this scenario is ideal until Alex Gonzalez is back. Then Janish becomes the late inning replacement off the bench sometimes, ala Castro. Only now, you can get rid of Castro.
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    If it was up to me, I'd write Janish's name into the line-up with a sharpie, bat him 8th, and forget about him.
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    Re: Janish?

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    For this team to be able to score enough runs
    1) Keppinger needs to play a lot of SS
    2) Bruce needs to play a lot of CF
    Yep.

    The Reds weren't as good offensively last year as people think they were. I don't know if we can afford having Janish and the catcher spot in the lineup.

    Bruce and Keepinger should both be starting up the middle. If you carry Janish as a defensive replacement, okay.
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    Re: Janish?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    I'd love to have a real plus defender at SS, even with a weak stick. However, can the offense sustain Janish, Patterson, and Ross/Javy/Bako all in the lineup together?
    Yeah.


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