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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Well, it seems the list of competitors is down to four, so it's a lock that at least one of them will. I think Cueto is the lock and then it's pretty much a complete toss up between Volquez, Fogg, and Belisle. If I had to guess, I'd say that due to the crunch of spots, that barring a thinning out of the bullpen, Volquez starts the year at the front the AAA rotation and we open with a rotation of:

    Harang
    Arroyo
    Fogg
    Cueto
    Belisle
    I'd suggest that Cueto and Volquez will be flipped, with Cueto starting at AAA. I feel it's doubtful that Krivsky would deal Hamilton for Volquez, then watch Volquez pitch well in Spring Training only to ship him to AAA. Not saying that's right, just that's how I see it playing out.
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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Right now I think Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez are both near locks for the rotation. Dusty Baker has all but stated this. With the comments he has made, I would be shocked if both Cueto and Volquez are not in the Opening Day rotation. My starting five would be: Harang, Arroyo, Volquez, Cueto, Belisle.

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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Right now I think Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez are both near locks for the rotation. Dusty Baker has all but stated this. With the comments he has made, I would be shocked if both Cueto and Volquez are not in the Opening Day rotation. My starting five would be: Harang, Arroyo, Volquez, Cueto, Belisle.
    That's how I see the situation as well. Although it seems like Fogg might have the inside track to the 5th spot.

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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Baker has said lots of things about lots of players to this point. How much should be taken as gospel and how much is just him trying to motivate? I'd like to believe that Cueto and Volquez will both be in the rotation to start the year but I'm not holding my breath.

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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Nothing Josh Fogg has done in his entire career should mean he wins a job in ST. If the plan was for Belisle to be the Number 3 starter before ST started, and I believe it was, then All this ST was for getting his arm in shape to start the season and shake off some rust.

    I'd release Fogg tomorrow and hope the Astros pick him up.
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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

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    I'd release Fogg tomorrow and hope the Astros pick him up.
    They gave him a million dollars, they won't cut him now.
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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    They gave him a million dollars, they won't cut him now.
    actually, he has to make to team to get a guaranteed contract. if not the Reds are only out 100,000.
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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    actually, he has to make to team to get a guaranteed contract. if not the Reds are only out 100,000.
    Heck, the way WK throws around Castellini's $$ on Rule V guys, 100 large shouldn't be a problem...

    Was Fogg "statistically bad" or "just plain bad" today??

    Wouldn't you love to see Belisle just take the darn ball Thursday and lay serious claim to his rotation spot???...I got the sense JB was discriminantly speaking about Belisle when he kept lusting over Cueto's ability to get out of trouble and not melting down during the 1st inning yesterday...


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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    From Fay, after today's game.

    Josh Fogg had a rough start. He allowed six runs -- three earned -- in five hits in three innings.

    "He was missing his spots," Dusty Baker said. "And we had a couple of defensive miscues. He needs good defense behind. Also, in his defense, he was pitching on three days' rest."

    Fogg is a fifth-starter type. He's going to have days like that.

    “If I was going to be good every start, I don’t think I’d be in the situation I’m in right now,” Fogg said. “I’d have a guaranteed job somewhere. Everybody gets beat up every once and a while. It’s part of the game.”

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    Re: Jeremy Affeldt to the bullpen per Dusty

    I really liked and supported the Fogg signing at first, but now I wonder why! It would be a crying shame, IMO, if he starts over any of Belisle, Cueto, or Volquez. It would be shame if he makes the bullpen over Burton, Salmon, McBeth, or even Coffey. These guys have way more talent and upside.

    Give me a rotation (in whatever order) of Harang, Arroyo, Belisle, Volqez, and Cueto.

    P.S. a rotation without Affeldt either


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