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if it was me the BP would look like this
Cordero, Weathers, Burton, Coffey, Bray, Affeldt and not Stanton with Belisle on the DL.
Another 1-2-3 inning with 2 strikeouts and a groundout today for Bray. Make that seven shutout innings with six strikeouts and only one walk.
If it comes down to Stanton OR Bray...I bet Stanton gets it, based on his paycheck and the fact that Bray has options.
Economics of baseball. BLAH.
Don't forget Affeldt's getting a nice check, too...
Last edited by Matt700wlw; 03-25-2008 at 03:39 PM.
If that's true, I agree with you. I'm only going by what I hear. Maybe all this spring training stuff about Mercker being good is a smoke screen. In any event, I'm not exactly brimming with confidence with Bray. If he gets parked in AAA for 4-6 weeks while they sort out the ML staff, I'm fine with that. It's not as if it's going to cost us the pennant anyhow.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
I guess we'll find out how serious the Reds truly are about winning.
I'm going to concede that I can't read Wayne's mind. I am far from being his biggest cheerleader on this board, as you know.
But, at the time of the signing, we needed depth badly.. both in the rotation and in the pen. It's a one year deal. He did ok last year with Colorado. The key to me is that it was a one year deal, not a Stanton albotross.
Lack of pitching depth has plagued the Reds for years. I'm glad Wayne at least didn't ignore the problem this year. Although I think he overpaid for Volequez, it's still nice that he added Fogg, Afedlt, and Volquez, as well as inviting Mercker and the other nonroster guys... because this team really needed some depth.
It's just not smart to head into the season, depending on a lot of innings from Belisle, rookies, and the cast of characters that filled last year's pen.
This might be the first year in a long time that we aren't forced to give guys like Michelek and Mays significant innings, as well as having the luxury not to "Rob Bell" any prospect that is not ready for prime time.
Yes, Fogg and Affedlt might be mediocre at best, but that's still an upgrade. I would've loved to see Wayne get impact pitchers instead, but apparently, the plan this year is to just be tolerable, not to win.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Why is it so for folks (on this board and more importantly, in the front office) to understand the concept of sunk costs? It does not cost us 3.5M to keep Stanton over Bray. We are on the hook for that 3.5M regardless. All it costs us is the difference between Bray's major league deal and his minor league deal, 300K or so.
Never overlook the obvious
We already found out how serious the Reds were winning about this year over the winter.. there were many impact starting pitchers available which the Reds could've gotten, but instead they chose to go with a youth movement.
It's clearly obvious that they aren't going for it this year by design.
If they were going for it this year, they would've kept Hamilton and traded prospects for Haren (or another stud starter).
What they do with Stanton, Mercker and Bray is a minor compared to the opportunites they passed up this offseason.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
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