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    Kepp vs. EE

    I wonder if this will be the question for Dusty to answer this year as opposed to Kepp vs. Gonzo at SS.

    If the game is on the line, who would you rather have coming to the plate? Kepp or EE?

    If EE doesn't get himself going quickly while Gonzo is still out, Kepp may move to 3b when Gonzo is ready to come back. That gives Dusty Gonzo's defense and keeps Keppinger's bat in the line up. EE can play against LHP when Kepp moves to 1B.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    Its spring training. You remember EdE's Spring last year?

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    EE is a good hitter... The problem is that people always mess with him and say he isn't good enough. Spring Training Stats Don't Matter

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    Quote Originally Posted by mlbfan30 View Post
    EE is a good hitter... The problem is that people always mess with him and say he isn't good enough. Spring Training Stats Don't Matter
    You should put that in your signature; at some point you will explain why they don't matter. It is true enough for veteran players, not so much for young players and veterans looking to earn a roster spot like Andy Phillips.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    I know this is far fetched but i think Edwin could just need 3-4 days off straight...he played winter ball and I'm not sure how long that lasts but maybe he is exhausted????Give him till Fri or Saturday off to do nothing but relax then have him play in their last ST game.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    Edwin is far more valuable than he gets credit for. I love keppinger...but i would NEVER replace Edwin for any extended period of time with Kepp. I truly hope this is the year that EE puts it all together and dismantles NL pitching. His glove seems to be much improved.

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    The stats do not indicate performance. Just because someone is doing bad doesn't mean they will do bad when it matter. By picking Kepp over EE at 3rd because of 30-40 ST at bats, its making a huge mistake. When you see managers take inferior players on the team because they got a hot start, how many times are they actually going to help? Is Castro really going to hit .300? It's been studied a lot over the years as to how ST stats affect stats in the regular season, and there is zero correlation, which the exception of a small correlation with hitting .200pts higher in SLG over career norm. That's it. You can look at mechanics and conditioning, control, or movement on pitches or fundamentals. There's a whole bunch of stuff that is important in ST, but the stats themselves aren't. Any player can go 4/4 and suddenly have good to great stats. Are the previous struggles gone just because they got lucky? There's also more to that such as unbalanced rosters, getting timing down, dealing with soreness from a long break, etc.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    I understand spring stats don't count for veterans. Notice I didn't say Castro should start over Edwin because of spring stats.

    I am suggesting that if Edwin has a slow start in April and continues to look like he did last night (flailing at breaking pitches low and away and strolling back to the bench) then Kepp should stay in the lineup and take his spot when AGon returns.

    I'm not just looking at spring training, I'm looking at 300 or so ab's for Keppinger last year. Based on last years numbers, I'd rather have Keppinger at the plate in the bottom of the ninth with 2 outs and a runner in scoring position than I would Edwin. Can you honestly say you'd rather see Edwin at the plate in that situation?

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    Personally I would rather have Kepp than Gonzo.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    I'd rather have Keppinger at the plate and Gonzalez in the field. Since that's not possible, I lean toward Gonzo as the SS because he's better defensively. While his defense wasn't the best last year, he had good reason to be distracted.

    The Reds have plenty of offense...they lose games when they're on the field, either from errors or poor pitching. Hopefully the pitching problems will be much diminished this year. I can't help but think that "Gonzalez vs Keppinger" wouldn't be that big of an issue if some of the other players were more consistent at the plate.

    I have to admit, though, that I really like having Keppinger on the team and don't see how you keep such a consistent hitter on the bench. Tough decision, to be sure.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    Quote Originally Posted by UPRedsFan View Post
    I understand spring stats don't count for veterans. Notice I didn't say Castro should start over Edwin because of spring stats.

    I am suggesting that if Edwin has a slow start in April and continues to look like he did last night (flailing at breaking pitches low and away and strolling back to the bench) then Kepp should stay in the lineup and take his spot when AGon returns.

    I'm not just looking at spring training, I'm looking at 300 or so ab's for Keppinger last year. Based on last years numbers, I'd rather have Keppinger at the plate in the bottom of the ninth with 2 outs and a runner in scoring position than I would Edwin. Can you honestly say you'd rather see Edwin at the plate in that situation?
    Kepp and EdE were almost identical in that situation last season (RISP w/2 out, not bottom of the 9th). EdE drove in the run 43% of the time and Kepp 44% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justincredible View Post
    Kepp and EdE were almost identical in that situation last season (RISP w/2 out, not bottom of the 9th). EdE drove in the run 43% of the time and Kepp 44% of the time.
    Interesting in RBI situations. But on the whole, Kepp OPS'd .877 in 241 AB's and EE was just under .800

    If I'm Dusty and Edwin's struggling in April, and Keppinger continues to hit, then Keppinger moves to 3B when Gonzalez returns.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    There's no way kepp replaces EE, he's too valuable to be on the bench. If Kepp would start over anyone it would be gonzo. Dusty could be tempted if gonzo goes back to his career numbers, and kepp continues to hit like he did last year.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Cueto View Post
    There's no way kepp replaces EE, he's too valuable to be on the bench. If Kepp would start over anyone it would be gonzo. Dusty could be tempted if gonzo goes back to his career numbers, and kepp continues to hit like he did last year.
    Agreed. I really love Kepp as a #2 hitter that gets on base a lot and sets the table for the middle of the lineup.

    I would expect a high OBP again from Kepp, which can't be said for Gonzalez.

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    Re: Kepp vs. EE

    2 more hits today. He has not wavered from last season one bit.

    Keppinger must get 400+ AB's. Maybe Dusty should buy him a catchers mitt!


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