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    Re: Brewers Release Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Even though Vargas throws a little harder, he's actually a down grade over Fogg due to his extreme flyball tendencies. There really is no way I'd want Vargas in GABP.
    You are correct. I missed Vargas's FB tendencies. He would make an excellent target for other pitching-starved teams though...
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    Re: Brewers Release Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    Vargas may be better than fogg, but that still doesn't mean that he's good. I would still rather they pour starts into Belisle and I'm not a big Belisle fan.


    Can somebody help me with the mechanics of this?

    I was under the impression that major league contracts were structured so that the player got paid even if they got released. Indeed that's the whole holdup with Stanton, the reds have to pay him even if they cut him.

    How is this different and the Brew-crew is saving money be releasing him?

    I don't know the exact rule, but I'm pretty sure you can cut a guy who got his salary set in arbitration. If you do it by a certain deadline, I think the club only owes the guy 20% of his salary and then the player is a free agent. In other words, the salary is not a guaranteed contract like Stantons' is. That's why Vargas makes 3.6 put the Brewers only save 2.7 (or whatever)..
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    Re: Brewers Release Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    The Ms released HoRam 12 days ago and only had to pay him 1/6th of the money he signed for because they released him before the cutoff for the next bump up.
    The funny thing is that they could have just not offered him arbitration a couple months earlier and wouldn't have needed to pay 1/6th of the money he was due.

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    Re: Brewers Release Vargas

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    The funny thing is that they could have just not offered him arbitration a couple months earlier and wouldn't have needed to pay 1/6th of the money he was due.
    That's the point though. A couple months earlier they were looking for 2/5 of their rotation with no real "sure thing" in-house options. To them, it was worth a $100K flyer to keep HoRam around in the hopes that the magic fairy dust finally transformed him into what they thought they were getting.
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