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    Stanton for Wes Helms?

    C. Trent has the link on his blog.

    The Phillies would love to be able to trade Helms. The Giants (for veteran lefthander Steve Kline) and the Reds (for experienced lefty Mike Stanton) are among the teams they are believed to be talking to.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Getting rid of Stanton is a winning proposition.

    Helms being able to play 3B, 1B and IIRC some LF would certainly make us a deeper team.

    Why on Earth the Phillies would want Stanton just boggles the mind, though.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    I would make that deal. Helms only hit .246/.297/.368 last season but check out his two previous seasons:

    .329/.390/.575
    .298/.356/.458

    Sign me up.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Why on Earth the Phillies would want Stanton just boggles the mind, though.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Gets rid of Stanton and improves the bench.

    Sign me up.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Gets rid of Stanton.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    There would be absolutely nothing to not like about that deal.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    I'm not 100% convinced that Stanton's gas tank is empty, but I'd rather the Phillies make that determination than the Reds.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    I'm not 100% convinced that Stanton's gas tank is empty, but I'd rather the Phillies make that determination than the Reds.
    Junkballing lefties do seem to have 9 lives in professional ball. Just when you think one is washed, they come back with some ridiculously lucky sub-3.50 ERA season.

    And, conversely, just when you think one has figured it out again, they turn back into a pumpkin and you're left holding the bag.

    Either way, I'd be happy to not be the person that finds out -- and I'll continue to feel that way even Stanton is only on life 7.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Not to mention the deal would save the Reds about $900,000. What's not to like?
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Not to mention the deal would save the Reds about $900,000. What's not to like?

    With Stanton's buyout next year, it's more like $1.4M.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by rotnoid View Post
    With Stanton's buyout next year, it's more like $1.4M.
    even better
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by rotnoid View Post
    With Stanton's buyout next year, it's more like $1.4M.
    Helms has a $750K buyout of his own. The difference is only about $600K. When you factor in the other guys who would be there instead of Helms and Stanton, its probably a wash for both teams. For example The Reds would add: Helms salary of $2.15 Million, plus his buyout .75 Million and Mercker in place of Stanton at say $1 Million. That is $3.9 Million in adds.

    Now subtract Stanton at $3.0 Million and his buyout of $.5 Million and say Hopper gets sent down to make room for Helms that saves about $400K and that would be $3.9 Million in subtractions and a complete wash, but with a better roster. I'd guess there is similar math going on in Philly.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    I like the trade, if it happens (and it won't). Maybe he could be traded by the Reds for another piece of the second coming of the Big Red Machine. That's what happened to his uncle, anyway.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    If true, the Reds need to do whatever it takes to make it happen. They should definitely offer to throw in a million.

    Something tells me it won't happen though.


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