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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    If I understand this correctly and maybe I don't...why not pay Stanton's buyout and use Rosales as the platoon corner guy. Rosales can play a very capable third and spent most of last season at first and did a pretty good job there as well (plus he can play a good 2b and a passable/emergency SS). There's no doubt Rosales can hit, he just has to prove that at the ML level. That rids the club of Stanton's big salary and they don't have to pay Rosales the league minimum. Given Helms is going into the twilight of his career, why not invest the time in a guy who could potentially be a mainstay for the Reds for the next 10 years or more and save a couple million bucks which can be spent on signing draft picks or picking up some more pitching depth.

    there has to be something I don't understand about Stanton's salary/buyout. Everyone is talking about him being the odd man out, even Dusty has eluded to it. Am I missing something or are the Reds trying to find him a home (and get a little something in return) before dumping on him.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    I'm sure the Reds would rather have Rosales playing everyday at Chattanooga or Louisville than platooning in Cincy.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    According to mlbtraderumors.com Helms for Kline has fallen through. Looks like the Helms-Stanton possibility may have gotten a boost.
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    Hal says the Reds nixed this deal??!!!???
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ga_Red View Post
    Hal says the Reds nixed this deal??!!!???
    He sure did. Hopefully he is mistaken.

    Are we missing a name here? Oh, yeah. Mike Stanton and his $3 million contract (with a $500,000 buyout). The Phillies inquired about his availability, offering first baseman/third baseman Wes Helmes. The Reds said no.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    There is still hope Reds fans!! A deal for Kline reportedly fell through.



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    Down to 11 healthy pitchers, the Phillies could drop to 10 by today after placing struggling reliever J.D. Durbin on waivers.

    Apparently the Phils are pretty confident they'll be successful in their desperate search to add a veteran arm from outside the organization before Monday's season opener.
    http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/ne...8-1509654.html

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    He sure did. Hopefully he is mistaken.
    Wow. Dumbfounding move on the Reds part if that's true.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    The Reds must not like Helms at all, the alternative is they still like Stanton..and that is too bitter to consider.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ga_Red View Post
    Hal says the Reds nixed this deal??!!!???
    That was stupid.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    The Reds must not like Helms at all, the alternative is they still like Stanton..and that is too bitter to consider.
    I'm sure Krivsky would actually tell Hal.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpup View Post
    I'm sure Krivsky would actually tell Hal.
    True, maybe he feeds him false info like during the GM search
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    I'm sure the Reds would rather have Rosales playing everyday at Chattanooga or Louisville than platooning in Cincy.
    250 ABs in the Majors > 500 ABs in AA or AAA.
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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    I think it's completely unnecessary to start Rosales' arbitration clock so soon. If he shows he's not ready for Major League pitching (and he probably isn't), then the Reds will have wasted a 40-man roster spot for a year. Besides, Rosales has only 255 at-bats above high-A-ball.

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    You've got to be kidding me. If true (and it sounds like it is), Wayne gets an F- for that move (or lack there of).

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    Re: Stanton for Wes Helms?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    You've got to be kidding me. If true (and it sounds like it is), Wayne gets an F- for that move (or lack there of).
    Unless he thinks he can get more out of the Phillies.
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