Not until Wayne got the Redszone printouts delivered to him with his morning cruller.Originally Posted by Roy Tucker
Not until Wayne got the Redszone printouts delivered to him with his morning cruller.
I'll give Krivsky credit for biting the bullet.....
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When does the above sit com get cancelled? Never has been much to watch....
i still think another move is coming outside the organization involving Freel
If he gets a daily RZ printout, that's a lot of trees.
Is Wayne an expresso or latte man?
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
safer not to target needs with borderlines, it's true. He's Risky Krivsky.
never been able to play dumb myself.
Stanton being washed up in 2008 has a lot more do with being an out-of-shape 40 year old whose 2006 numbers looked decent largely because he pitched in a very pitcher friendly home park.
He wasn't a very effective reliever in the years prior to being signed. He was old. And he wasn't in great physical condition.
This has nothing to do with an unrealistic RedsZone standard and everything to do with common sense. The only virtue of being lefthanded (and the reason they stick around so long) is that lefties have a tendency to have greater success versus left handed hitting. Thus a mediocre lefty still might be a better option than a mediocre righty.
Unfortunately, that simply isn't Stanton's game and it never has been. It was another misguided, desperate attempt by Krivsky to stabilize the bullpen. Trying to solve the bullpen problem is fine. If Krivsky's general idea was to dip in to the FA pool to get a moderately effective reliever at a moderate cost to bridge the gap until the young arms were ready, that's a fine idea. However, the execution was piss poor and I don't see how you can argue that. There was never a reasonable expectation that Stanton would be anything but what he ended up being. It was a bad idea from the very start and we're seeing the consequence now.
If your arm is cut off, it's fairly imperative that you stop the bleeding. Nobody would argue that. It does not mean it makes sense to spend 5 bucks on a bandaid when it clearly won't fix the problem and is just a waste of money. It was a CYA move from a GM with a dictate from above to win now, resulting in spending 7M for a season of sub-replacement relief pitching.
Last edited by RedsManRick; 03-28-2008 at 02:04 PM.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Sure is a long running hit play, about seven straight years now or is it eight.
and he had an EXTREMELY low number of HRs(2 IIRC) which was unlikely to be repeated. It's the same mirage that fooled the Reds into thinking Rick White had value.
He'll be cheaper and thus easier to dump when he inevitably implodes.
Good move by the Reds here.
Go Gators!
Don't forget... Mercker is A LOT funnier than Stanton. That has to count. BTW, I am all for giving Mercker an opportunity here.
Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
I'm guessing he's an average cuppa joe guy - he looks like Fred Flintston, for heaven's sake.
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Yup. Rheal Cormier as well. Maybe Stanton was signed based on a scouting decision that said he would still be effective for a few years. But this smacks of the same ERA based logic that justified the acquisition of guys like White and Cormier. The implosion was predictable based on a reasonable analysis and yet seems to have blindsided Krivksy. WK certainly has his strengths, but he's a got a serious blind spot when it comes to evaluating relievers.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
And to think...all of the hand-wringing re: Stanton was for...nothing
(feel free to resume hand-wringing on a new subject)
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