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    How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    He was our best hitter last year, and freaking owned spring training. I would be royally pissed if I was Scott!
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    He is almost 40, in the twilight of his career and there is a younger, more talented player who is waiting in the wings. Good for Hatty but he had to know the situation coming into this year. Making a cool 2M for sitting the bench isn't a bad gig.

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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    He is almost 40, in the twilight of his career and there is a younger, more talented player who is waiting in the wings. Good for Hatty but he had to know the situation coming into this year. Making a cool 2M for sitting the bench isn't a bad gig.
    Agreed.

    Plus Hatteberg was not the Reds bets hitter last year. Dunn, Hamilton, Keppinger, and Griffey all had better seasons with the bat. And in a very small sample size Votto was better. Joey Votto needs to be the starting first baseman or else we'll be going through this same discussion next season.

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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Agreed.

    Plus Hatteberg was not the Reds bets hitter last year. Dunn, Hamilton, Keppinger, and Griffey all had better seasons with the bat. And in a very small sample size Votto was better. Joey Votto needs to be the starting first baseman or else we'll be going through this same discussion next season.
    He was the most consistant, with the highest batting average.

    I dunno, I just don't like it personally.
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    1. He's not part of the future

    2. We have a young guy who is

    3. He's not that good. He's done a hell of a job as a Red, but he is what he is. A platoon first basemen that represents little value as a full time player.

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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Quote Originally Posted by redsrule2500 View Post
    He was the most consistant, with the highest batting average.
    batting average? Really?
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    This might sound a bit obvious, but you don't play guys based on what they did last year, you play them based on what they are likely to do this year.

    Hatteberg had a nice year in 2007. That doesn't make him the better option for 2008.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Thank God the Reds are going to go with Votto. Shows me they're at least trying to do the right things.
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    I really hope Baker agrees with you guys......is it written somewhere that Votto will start at 1B on Monday?
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Quote Originally Posted by red-in-la View Post
    I really hope Baker agrees with you guys......is it written somewhere that Votto will start at 1B on Monday?
    Fay says as much in his blog:

    Here's the roster:

    Starting lineup:
    Corey Patterson CF
    Jeff Keppinger SS
    Ken Griffey Jr. RF
    Brandon Phillips 2B
    Adam Dunn LF
    Edwin Encarnacion 3B
    Joey Votto 1B
    Paul Bako/Javy Valentin C

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    Ryan Freel INF/OF
    Juan Castro INF
    Scott Hatteberg 1B
    Norris Hopper OF

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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Dusty has used Votto late in ST as a pinch hitter and as a DH -- where he sits on the bench and enters the game similar to what a PH does.

    So, the manager is probably confident that either Votto or Hatte can be successful coming off the bench late.

    Furthermore, most pinch-hitting is done for the #9 slot in the order, much more rarely one position player for another; so the "platoon" might work even though neither first baseman bats right-handed.

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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    I think you'll see alot of both of them while Votto goes through his normal early season struggles, but once Votto turns it on he'll be the everyday 1st baseman.
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post
    Fay says as much in his blog:
    I am not sure that I take that so seriously. Fay said it was his guess.....and he has missed on many occassions in the past.
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    Flip Votto and Patty, please. Thank you.
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    Re: How can they justify sitting Hatte?

    I like Hatteberg quite a bit. I have gained a huge amount of respect for him as a ballplayer during his time with the Reds. He's what I always wished Sean Casey would have turned into. A gap hitter who has a high OBP to make up for his power shortcomings. He's helped out the Reds tremendously in the last two seasons.

    That being said - it's time for the Reds to look to the future, and that future includes Joey Votto - a player who is younger, more talented and has a higher ceiling than that of Hatteberg.


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