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    DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Burton finds his groove after rough spring

    By Hal McCoy

    Staff Writer

    Sunday, April 06, 2008

    CINCINNATI — CINCINNATI — Spring training for Jared Burton was a Nightmare on Euclid Street, the avenue that runs next to Ed Smith Stadium in Sarasota, Fla.

    New manager Dusty Baker was told how well Burton pitched last year as a Rule 5 pick, the great stuff he had to bedazzle batters. Burton wanted to show that, but he didn't. Not even close. In eight games, his earned-run average was 8.22 and he gave up 15 hits in 72/3 innings.

    Some people had him lopped off the roster. He stuck, though, and what a difference the regular season makes. Burton pitched one inning of Sunday's 8-2 win over the Philadelphia Phillies and struck out one. Since the season began he has struck out seven of the 11 hitters he faced.

    Redemption.

    "The last four or five outings this spring, even though I was giving up runs, I was making good pitches," said Burton. "I was getting ground balls that went through holes. But it's a totally different feeling once the season begins and you put on that big-league uniform and the adrenaline gets flowing.

    "I'm not going to be a guy who makes excuses, but I think the main thing was that having last year under my belt, when I struggled in spring training I was able to stay confident," he said. "I realized I could do it."

    Bako steps up

    The rumor mill (just where is that?) says the Reds are scouting the Texas Rangers and catcher Gerald Laird for a possible trade.

    Why? With the way Paul Bako is catching, with a .286 batting average that includes a game-winning hit, who needs a catcher?

    Baker is more than thrilled with what Bako has done, especially catching the games pitched by the young Latinos, Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez.

    "He is one of the best non-roster signings that we made and I know we made quite a few (Bako, Corey Patterson, Mike Lincoln, Kent Mercker, Johnny Cueto)," Baker said. "Imagine where we'd be without him, with Ross down and Valentin hurting. Bako is calling a great game, throwing guys out and getting some timely hits."

    Acting lessons?

    Baker said Jeff Keppinger is a good hitter, but a poor actor.

    In the fourth inning, Keppinger fouled one off his shin that rolled up the third-base line. He stood at the plate, believing the ball was foul. No umpire saw the ball ricochet off Keppinger's foot, so he was called out when the throw went to first.

    "I could see the ball come off his shin guard, but it didn't help that he didn't do a very good job of acting. Must not have hurt because it hit off that pad he wears."

    Keppinger said it did hurt, "It hit off my foot and I have a bruise on my toe. I guess the umpires didn't see it, everybody makes mistakes. They're the best of the best, too. I didn't know the ball was in play and I didn't see it until the ball hit third base."

    Quote of the day

    "It was good to see Ken Griffey Jr. get on the board (with his first home run) because he has been swinging the bat well. So has Adam Dunn, without much result, so it would be good to get him on the board (today)." — Baker, talking about the struggles of his two run-producers, Griffey (.263) and Dunn (.176).

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con...snotesweb.html


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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Laird would be an upgrade, but I doubt it would be big enough of an upgrade to justify what the Rangers would want in return. Let's just face it: Almost every team's catcher stinks.

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Laird would be an upgrade, but I doubt it would be big enough of an upgrade to justify what the Rangers would want in return. Let's just face it: Almost every team's catcher stinks.
    yeah, not everyone can have a Jorge Posada.
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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Laird would be an upgrade, but I doubt it would be big enough of an upgrade to justify what the Rangers would want in return.

    I don't see Wayne paying up for Laird's hot start either. Been there done that with Ross.

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Hal could be working off old information, the Laird rumors were flying a few weeks ago. Having said that, I don't doubt the Reds are keeping close tabs on any catcher that's perceived to be available at some point. Active trade talks are unlikely -- teams generally don't deal much between the start of the season and June -- but despite Bako's good start and working well with the pitchers and Ross' imminent return, there's still a decent chance the position turns into a black hole. If the Reds are contending, they'll need to be ready to make a move.
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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    When the Rangers tank and call up Salty... say June... then the Reds can chase Laird

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Burton is solid - he's just young. He'll have some rough spots too I'm sure but he has the talent. And the experience he is getting now is invaluable because it allows the Reds to bring on more youngsters like Viola and Roenicke later without overloading the staff with inexperienced pitchers.

    Bako isn't going to hit at this clip all year but I'm coming around. He IS Gerald Laird folks, why give up something of value for a guy who doesn't produce any better? I'm beginning to think Bako and Ross would be a decent platoon behind the plate. I don't understand the FO's fascination with Valentin, though. He is NOT the pinch hitter they seem to think he is, and he's a bad catcher. I'd rather cut him or trade him for cash/PTBNL.

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Acting lessons?

    Baker said Jeff Keppinger is a good hitter, but a poor actor.

    In the fourth inning, Keppinger fouled one off his shin that rolled up the third-base line. He stood at the plate, believing the ball was foul. No umpire saw the ball ricochet off Keppinger's foot, so he was called out when the throw went to first.

    "I could see the ball come off his shin guard, but it didn't help that he didn't do a very good job of acting. Must not have hurt because it hit off that pad he wears."

    Keppinger said it did hurt, "It hit off my foot and I have a bruise on my toe. I guess the umpires didn't see it, everybody makes mistakes. They're the best of the best, too. I didn't know the ball was in play and I didn't see it until the ball hit third base."
    Yep.

    I thought it was hilarious when the FSO camera crew kept showing the ball, being held by a guy in the stands, with a big black mark where Kep's bat got a piece of it. Grande & Welsh were having a field day with that.

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Hal also mentioned that an American League scout was watching Homer Bailey last week.

    Bailey for Laird plus chaff?

    Yuck
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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Is micheal young available? Young and laird for bailey and agon? Kepp is your super sub!
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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Quote Originally Posted by cincyinco View Post
    Is micheal young available? Young and laird for bailey and agon? Kepp is your super sub!
    I'd say Keppinger is doing a pretty good Michael Young impression right now. Both hit well but are better suited to second base. I'm not sure how Laird is much of an upgrade on Ross or Bako. Laird has excellent footwork and a great arm but has a poor approach at the plate. I'd rather keep Bailey than opt for any lateral moves.
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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Hal also mentioned that an American League scout was watching Homer Bailey last week.

    Bailey for Laird plus chaff?

    Yuck
    Bailey for Salty?

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Bailey for Laird would be awful. Bailey for Salty would be a nice deal.

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    Re: DDN article on Jared Burton (plus Reds still scouting Gerald Laird)

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Bailey for Salty?
    Salty might have more upside than Laird, but Laird's ready now.

    Which C would you rather have for Bailey?

    I think I lean slightly towards Salty, rather than Laird.

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    I've herd some negatives about Salty's defense. Is he just a younger version of Javy?
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