top 5 of all time huh ?? pretty bold statement......Originally Posted by Aronchis
top 5 of all time huh ?? pretty bold statement......
Not really. Alot of guys could have been top 5 if they reached their full potential. Most don't. But they reach enough of it to have good careers.
Your internal stuffometer is busted. Cueto's heater is a thing of beauty, a true swing-and-miss pitch. It's not just location, though it should be noted that "when not located properly" is a patently silly complaint. Johnny Cueto is going to be properly locating pitches for his entire career. That's what he does.
And I'm not sure what else you want from a changeup. Apparently a pitch that's making everyone's jaw drop all spring doesn't impress you much.
He's going to have bad days and he'll surely discover how good major league hitters are, but a full arsenal like he's got is rare.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
I agree completely. His fastball moves and movement, not straight velocity is what makes a great fastball. One guy's 92 with movement trumps another pitchers flat 96. Cueto has 95-96 with movement -that's just ridiculous.
His changeup is very very deceptive. That's the real key to a changeup. He is still perfecting it and sometimes doesn't get the drop but that's not the problem it might be for a taller pitcher -Cueto pitches at he knees and below all the time. Tall pitchers have some advantages but also are more prone to leaving the ball up in the zone if they don't finish off their delivery completely and that's harder to do the taller you get.
Then add that nasty slider and Cueto is the real deal. Volquez, imo, has the best fb of the big 3 and his change is better, too, imo but Cueto eats his lunch when it comes to command and a great slider.
Bailey's curve is a thing of beauty when he gets it to bite but he's inconsistent and like someone observed saying his curve is overrated - it is if you're watching him when its not 'on'. Homer needs better command, more consistency with the break on his curve (if it's going to be an out pitch), and time. Volquez is a full 2 years older and Cueto is just very unusual in his command at his age. Just a year ago Texas fans were ripping Volquez the same way Bailey is getting ripped now.
Pick an apple when it's green, don't squawk that it's sour.
I like that saying....but are you referring to granny smith apples ?? J/k.
Not really just for an "out pitch" but to locate it for strikes. You can't just throw fastball's for strikes and nothing else for strikes - you'd get ripped to shreds that way (which I think he did in one appearance in Cincinnati last year).
Arroyo is able to throw everything for strikes from different arm angles - and that's one thing that helps him keep the hitters timing / balance off key. Not saying he's the best pitcher in the world but he's crafty with what he's got.
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