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    Corky Miller Sighting

    Catching tonight for the Atlanta Braves.

    He just allowed his second passed ball of the evening to give the Pirates 1st and 3rd with 1 out in the top of the 10th (game is tied).

    Another Reds "catcher of the future" that simply refused to pan out (see: Sardinha, Dane and Perez, Miguel).
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    Incidentally -- watching this game on EI -- the Braves had Chris Resop on the mound in the 10th. Cox came out and put in a lefty specialist in to face Adam LaRoche and sent Resop out to play left field. Then, after LaRoche struck out, they took Resop out of left field and put him back on the mound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Incidentally -- watching this game on EI -- the Braves had Chris Resop on the mound in the 10th. Cox came out and put in a lefty specialist in to face Adam LaRoche and sent Resop out to play left field. Then, after LaRoche struck out, they took Resop out of left field and put him back on the mound.

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    Nady just drove in the go ahead run, so it really didn't work out. However, I have never seen that before.

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    That was truly awesome. Didn't work, but cool...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Nady just drove in the go ahead run, so it really didn't work out. However, I have never seen that before.
    If the Reds had a LOOGY, you could really have some fun with that kind of strategy...

    LOOGY to P
    Burton/Weathers to LF
    Dunn to 1B

    then

    Burton/Weathers back to P
    Dunn back to LF
    Votto/Hatteberg into 1B
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    Re: Corky Miller Sighting

    AUGUST 31, 1968 … Pirates’ starting pitcher Steve Blass gets the first out of the game against Braves’ centerfielder Felipe Alou before moving to LF to replace Carl Taylor. Pittsburgh manager Larry Shepard calls on longtime reliever Elroy Face to enter the game. Face retires Felix Millan and ties Walter Johnson's major-league record of 802 pitching appearances with one team. Face leaves the game, Manny Mota moves from RF to LF, Roberto Clemente enters the game and goes to RF, Blass goes back to the pitching mound, and the Pirates go on to win 8–0. Late in the game, the Pirates announce the sale of Elroy Face to the Detroit Tigers. Blass will not get credit for another shutout though he still leads the NL with seven shutouts.

    MAY 1, 1970...Reds' manager Sparky Anderson pulls a trick out of his hat when he calls for reliever Don Gullett to come into the game from the bullpen. Anderson wants the lefty Gullett to face the left-handed hitting Willie Stargell, one of the most feared hitters in baseball. Wanting to keep Granger in the game so he can face the next right-handed hitter, Anderson sends Granger to to play left field! (Don't ya think Granger is standing out there thinking,....please, please don't hit it to me) Gullett whiffs Stargell, the game is over, the Reds win 6-4.

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    Re: Corky Miller Sighting

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    If the Reds had a LOOGY, you could really have some fun with that kind of strategy...

    LOOGY to P
    Burton/Weathers to LF
    Dunn to 1B

    then

    Burton/Weathers back to P
    Dunn back to LF
    Votto/Hatteberg into 1B
    Or if we could just get Dunn to play 1B everyday (like he should), then we could move Hatteberg and Votto for better pitching....

    Just sayin....

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    Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    I have a friend who's a Braves fan and gets frustrated with Cox for the way he handles the bullpen. He told me to check the box score tonight to cement why he hates it.

    - C. Resop relieved R. Soriano
    - N. Morgan hit for T. Yates
    - N. Morgan walked
    - L. Rivas sacrificed to pitcher, N. Morgan to second
    - J. Bay walked, N. Morgan to third on passed ball
    - R. Ring relieved C. Resop
    - C. Resop in left field

    - A. LaRoche struck out swinging
    - G. Blanco in left field
    - X. Nady singled to center, N. Morgan scored, J. Bay to second
    When Blanco went to LF, Resop went back to the mound and subsequently lost them the game.

    However, I don't think I can recall ever seeing a pitcher double switched into the field and going back to pitching later in the same inning. How often does this happen?

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    Re: Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    Hold on, they took a pitcher, put him in the field, and then had him pitch?!?!
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    Re: Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Ah, thanks.

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    Re: Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    I lived in Atlanta from 1993-2003 and I followed the Braves pretty closely as I lived 3 miles from the park.

    Bobby Cox would get destroyed on Redszone.

    He's also a fabulous clubhouse guy and really astute scout. Probably the best "baseball man" of the last 30 years, maybe longer.

    Even if he does most of the things we rag on Dusty for just about as often.

    Nobody in the last 50 years has a comparable resume as a GM and a Manager.

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    Re: Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    Didn't Coutlangus come up as a position player? He seems fit perfect for this as a LOOGY. Hmmm...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Bobby Cox, the ultimate micro-manager?

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Didn't Coutlangus come up as a position player? He seems fit perfect for this as a LOOGY. Hmmm...
    Yes he did. He was a CF.

    And it really is remarkable that he's had as much success this quickly as he has. But I'm just not sure that I'm not kinda happy about having Mercker instead. If the Reds really are going to go with a guy like Lincoln in the 8th, which is very telling to me this early in the season, I want some gray hair LH behind him, even after Stanton.
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    Re: Corky Miller Sighting

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Or if we could just get Dunn to play 1B everyday (like he should), then we could move Hatteberg and Votto for better pitching....

    Just sayin....
    Yes, let's force a player that we want to keep long term to a position he has made clear he has no interest in playing.

    In theory it's a fine idea, but players aren't robots. You make Dunn do something he doesn't want to do, and you run the risk of driving him out of Cincy.


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