What's up with Mesaraco?

[TRF]

It may have been that his BB rate in college dropped three straight years, while hi K/9 was in double digits during that span. It may have been that he was considered major league ready, or close to it, and the Reds had a craptastic rotation and almost no SP depth at the time.

That MAY have been why the Stubbs pick was a bad one. I'm thrilled he's hitting now, but rotation of Harang, Lincecum, Cueto, Arroyo with Bailey on the way means the Reds likely don't trade Hamilton. I love EV in the rotation, but Lincecum would balance that and give the Reds 2 tremendous young talents in the OF, Bruce Hamilton.

[dougdirt]

It may have been that his BB rate in college dropped three straight years, while hi K/9 was in double digits during that span. It may have been that he was considered major league ready, or close to it, and the Reds had a craptastic rotation and almost no SP depth at the time.

That MAY have been why the Stubbs pick was a bad one. I'm thrilled he's hitting now, but rotation of Harang, Lincecum, Cueto, Arroyo with Bailey on the way means the Reds likely don't trade Hamilton. I love EV in the rotation, but Lincecum would balance that and give the Reds 2 tremendous young talents in the OF, Bruce Hamilton.

Sure, but to pretend Lincecum was a slam dunk pick doesn't work.
He was 5'10 155 pounds soaking wet. Had some serious control issues. Strange mechanics and release point issues.

Kid had and still has ridiculous talent, but its not like David Price was on the board for us or something.

[TRF]

He was the best player available AND filled a need. That makes it a no-brainer.

[dougdirt]

He was the best player available AND filled a need. That makes it a no-brainer.

Except at the time I am not sure he was the BPA. In hindsight that may be true (although maybe not, Joba Chamberlain could make a great argument for that as well), but hindsight is just that.

[edabbs44]

You do understand that Stubbs was rated Top 100 by BA last year, and is likely much better this year?

100th, to be exact. And that had more to do with his pre-draft scouting report than his performance in the minors.

[dougdirt]

100th, to be exact. And that had more to do with his pre-draft scouting report than his performance in the minors.

True to an extent, but that ranking looks awfully justified, if not low at this point in time.

[TRF]

True to an extent, but that ranking looks awfully justified, if not low at this point in time.

Yeah? What was Lincecum's? for the very short time he was in the minors, top 50? higher?

[dougdirt]

Yeah? What was Lincecum's? for the very short time he was in the minors, top 50? higher?

Between 15-30 depending where you looked. That still doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand though that Lincecum wasn't some slam dunk, no doubt David Price is sitting there type choice.

[edabbs44]

True to an extent, but that ranking looks awfully justified, if not low at this point in time.

Time will tell on that. He is still only in High A. If he is putting up numbers in AA then I will start to take notice.

[edabbs44]

Between 15-30 depending where you looked. That still doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand though that Lincecum wasn't some slam dunk, no doubt David Price is sitting there type choice.

The guy I wanted in that draft (at the time) just got the call: Max Scherzer.

[IslandRed]

I'm trying to remember if there's ever been a thread about Devin Mesaraco that wasn't hijacked into a Drew Stubbs vs. Tim Lincecum thread. :

[dougdirt]

I'm trying to remember if there's ever been a thread about Devin Mesaraco that wasn't hijacked into a Drew Stubbs vs. Tim Lincecum thread. :

It probably happened because no one knows who Devin Mesaraco is. Is he related to Reds catching prospect Devin Mesoraco?

[IslandRed]

It probably happened because no one knows who Devin Mesaraco is. Is he related to Reds catching prospect Devin Mesoraco?

Typo on my part. I should know better. :