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    Kearns on the block

    According to cnnsi.com:

    "The Reds are offering outfielder Austin Kearns for pitching in hopes of repeating the Wily Mo Pena trade that put GM Wayne Krivsky on the map. Krivsky would be wise to try to resurrect the Kearns-for-Jake Westbrook deal that was discussed earlier this season, though that may be difficult because Westbrook's value has continued to rise while Kearns' has not. Krivsky might have no choice but to try to dangle Adam Dunn, perhaps as a DH to an AL team, to get what he needs."

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    We have depth in the OF and need pitching...why not?
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    The return for Dunn would have to be tremendous. Like Liriano-big.

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster
    The return for Dunn would have to be tremendous. Like Liriano-big.
    I'd have to think Fransico Liriano would be the definition of "untouchable" right now.
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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfan30
    I'd have to think Fransico Liriano would be the definition of "untouchable" right now.
    As would I.

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    I think Kearns could probably fetch a #2 or #3 starter. Dunn, as much as I have criticized him, has DH written all over him. I honestly think he would be great at it and the right team might be willing to give the Reds a top starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handofdeath
    I think Kearns could probably fetch a #2 or #3 starter. Dunn, as much as I have criticized him, has DH written all over him. I honestly think he would be great at it and the right team might be willing to give the Reds a top starter.
    If Dunn would hate being a 1B because of the lack of action and movement, what would he say about being a DH? Personally I think being a DH would be boring, and it wouldn't even feel like you're playing baseball. It's like pinch-hitting 4 times a game. I think he would be bad at it because he wouldn't accept his role well. Plus there would be a lot of games where he will go 0-4 with 2 k's, and contribute nothing to the team, because he doesn't play the field. Atleast if he has a bad day at the plate now, he can reconcile with his defense (which hasn't been that bad in the last few months like it was in April).

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Quote Originally Posted by pahster
    The return for Dunn would have to be tremendous. Like Liriano-big.
    I can't say I agree with you. I'd want more for Kearns than Dunn. Dunn hits taters, that's about it, IMO. If you think about it, he really is a defensive liability in LF. He does nothing in the field that makes me say "Only a couple players in MLB could do that." He's going to cost a lot of money in the next few years, and I'd rather have a .280 ish hitter with 25-30 HRs and 100 RBI than a .230 hitter with 50/95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LexingtonRedleg
    I can't say I agree with you. I'd want more for Kearns than Dunn. Dunn hits taters, that's about it, IMO. If you think about it, he really is a defensive liability in LF. He does nothing in the field that makes me say "Only a couple players in MLB could do that." He's going to cost a lot of money in the next few years, and I'd rather have a .280 ish hitter with 25-30 HRs and 100 RBI than a .230 hitter with 50/95.
    Kearns hasn't hit 25-30 HR's and 100 RBI. He might, but he hasn't. Dunn would get about 3 times the amount of talent that Kearns would bring in.
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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Quote Originally Posted by Redhook
    Kearns hasn't hit 25-30 HR's and 100 RBI. He might, but he hasn't. Dunn would get about 3 times the amount of talent that Kearns would bring in.
    I wasn't necessarily referring to kearns hitting 25-30. But you're right, Dunn would bring in a lot more than Kearns would, and I think Kearns is a more well-rounded player.

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Quote Originally Posted by LexingtonRedleg
    I can't say I agree with you. I'd want more for Kearns than Dunn. Dunn hits taters, that's about it, IMO. If you think about it, he really is a defensive liability in LF. He does nothing in the field that makes me say "Only a couple players in MLB could do that." He's going to cost a lot of money in the next few years, and I'd rather have a .280 ish hitter with 25-30 HRs and 100 RBI than a .230 hitter with 50/95.
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    Re: Kearns on the block

    I'd be all for using Kearns as bait to net us another strong starting pitcher to go with Harang and Arroyo.

    It does have the potential to be a VERY interesting next couple of days...that's for sure.
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    Re: Kearns on the block

    yeah, ideally, I'd rather move Denorfia for pitching, but the return you'd get with him probably isn't going to be as good as what you'd get for Kearns, and Kearns will start to get pretty expensive in the years coming up, so I would say it does make some sense to deal Kearns. Having said that, I hope defensively Denorfia and/or Freel can replace Kearns or we're not going to be improving very much no matter who we get in return.
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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Why would si.com say Kearns' value hasn't risen? His OPS and other numbers should be potentially the best on the market outside of Carlos Lee. In fact, in some respects, he may be as valuable as Lee (younger, better contract). Interesting note on his availability, not great analysis from them, in my opinion.

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    Re: Kearns on the block

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal
    Why would si.com say Kearns' value hasn't risen? His OPS and other numbers should be potentially the best on the market outside of Carlos Lee. In fact, in some respects, he may be as valuable as Lee (younger, better contract). Interesting note on his availability, not great analysis from them, in my opinion.
    I couldn't agree more. Kearns has done nothing this season to hurt his trade value.
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