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    Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    Is it just me or is this place really quiet and docile lately? The Reds won a game today in dramatic fashion and even while searching in the crevices of the board, I've found maybe 20 posts tops on the game. I don't know whether I'm just out of the loop or we're not supposed to do that anymore, but I found it strange. And someone with the real figures might be able to dispute this, it's just an observation.

    My theory is game threads keep the conversation going, but I could be wrong about that too. Then again, maybe this is the intent.
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    It's a weird point in the season. It's early enough that we don't really know much about anything and aren't too anxious to start taking real action. However, it's past the early stages of hanging on every day as a sign of an impending breakthrough or doom. The reality of the 162 game season is upon us. It's a Sunday night in late April and everybody is waiting for things to start shaking out.

    That said, I do think you're right about the role of game threads. They're like the CNN of RedsZone. They force a topic de jour even when there's not really anything new to talk about. Give it another week or so and I think we'll have a better sense of it.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    I think it is a lack of fresh blood in the arena. When you have the same people here for a long period of time eventually you reach a point where everything has been said. Unless there is a regular infusion of fresh people then the conversations will become stale.

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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    It may get more interesting after Belisle's first start. I think he holds the Reds keys this year.

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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    The team has taken us on quite a roller coaster ride so far. There are a couple obvious moves but the team is stonewalling us on those, and seeing what results they might bring, so we are left to just ponder for the moment.

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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I do think you're right about the role of game threads. They're like the CNN of RedsZone. They force a topic de jour even when there's not really anything new to talk about. Give it another week or so and I think we'll have a better sense of it.
    Those were my thoughts. Regardless of how awful they might have become lately, they present ideas. One poster will propose that David Weathers is over the hill and a couple of threads in ORG spring up with theories. Conversation happens. There are so many knowledgeable people around here ane when they participate in the game threads, it makes me think. It's only been a few days, but I miss the game threads.

    One more point. The game threads are a historical record of the attitudes of Reds fans from a point in time. I went back tonight and read the posts in game threads from early 2006 when things were really going good. then I read the same posters when things got bad. It's an amazing study in human nature.
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    I actually find it kind of refreshing - not only as a moderator but also as a fan. Without all the hyperbole from the game threads, it might be a nice change. But I think there's still plenty to talk about. If Belisle gives up more than 3-4 runs Monday night and the Reds can't get any offense going, people are going to be wanting to send him back to LOU.
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I actually find it kind of refreshing - not only as a moderator but also as a fan. Without all the hyperbole from the game threads, it might be a nice change. But I think there's still plenty to talk about. If Belisle gives up more than 3-4 runs Monday night and the Reds can't get any offense going, people are going to be wanting to send him back to LOU.
    Thus my point that maybe it was by design. It makes it easier on the mods, but does it add to the conversation here? Does it improve the experience? Does it make it worth stopping by?

    I can't answer those qustions intelligently, but I do know that after a tremdnous comeback by the Reds in a game everyone thought was lost, and the halting of another skid.

    I think it's probably time for all of us to re-evaluate what RedsZone is. Is it the free flow of information about the Reds with those that step over the line being put out with the trash or is it a docile board where people lose interest but makes the job of running it easier?

    Obviosuly, that's a little bit hyperbole and a little bit truth in my statements. Of course, the history of the game reeks with hyperbole, but let's not let that get in the way of conversation. What Belisle does is already known. He'll either have it or he won't. Trouble is, a lot of folks will just not tune in.
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    IMO, the lack of a game thread has made it very quiet. Game threads often started consversations but since we don't have that anymore I think people are just sitting back, watching the games and keeping to themselves.
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    This will be very unpopular, but frankly Redszone has dropped from being the first website I check to down the laundry list of sites I visit. I'm sure people will rush to gush about how RZ is the best site on the internet, has the greatest people in the world, blah blah.

    Maybe it's the natural progression of things, but after a while, there just isn't anything new or interesting being posted. Basically it's someone posting a thought, another poster taking issue with it, 8 more people jumping into the fray and the result is 15 pages of gibberish. Sure, there might be an interesting statement in there, but it's usually burried beneath the same general group of people arguing with each other about the same stuff. Serriously, how many times can we argue about the same old crap?

    Like I said, maybe it's just the normal progession. Join, really dive in, spend hours a day and then gradually over time get bored. Maybe the board really hasn't changed, and it's all me. I mean, at first there were a lot of really new ways to think about baseball. But now I've pretty much absorbed a lot of the new philosphies (not saying I agree or understand them all) so what's there left to dicuss? Marty is a jerk? Send EE down? John Allen was a dork? The Reds will always suck? Yawnnnnn....

    I don't know, there just seems to be far more important things in life than spending hours arguing on the internet with complete strangers. The interest in RZ was new information and ideas about baseball, the arguing frankly was fun, but secondary. Now that the "thrill" of arguing about the same old crap is done, it's laid bare that their really aren't any fresh conversations going on about baseball in these parts.

    Some might argue that there are great threads and post a link or two to them. But frankly I just don't have the desire to sift through the junk threads to get to an interesting new metric, or a new idea on pitching utilization, or a historical study of XYZ.

    I guess this is sort of a rambling catharsis about RZ. I'm sure there are many thinking, "thank god he isn't around much". Then again, there are also likely some devistated by the loss of my pithy commentary. Nate likely is.
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    I know it wasn't meant to be this way, but the whole game thread thing has really chilled my desire to participate or start any threads in this forum.

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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    I think I agree that the lack of game threads makes it less appealing to come in and talk about what happened in a game. Especially after some lineup threads got locked down.
    Kind of a buzz kill. I was thinking on Sunday how fun it would've been to read and talk about Burton blowing the lead, followed by the come back.. But now, it's unclear if you're even allowed to talk about that, even hours later.

    Like someone else said, if you can't talk about the games during the season, there's not much left to talk about.
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I think I agree that the lack of game threads makes it less appealing to come in and talk about what happened in a game. Especially after some lineup threads got locked down.
    Kind of a buzz kill. I was thinking on Sunday how fun it would've been to read and talk about Burton blowing the lead, followed by the come back.. But now, it's unclear if you're even allowed to talk about that, even hours later.

    Like someone else said, if you can't talk about the games during the season, there's not much left to talk about.
    Actually Burton didn't "blow the lead", the game was tied at the time. EE's error allowed the Brewers to take the lead on his error on what in all likelihood would have been a double play. Of course, without that, the win lacks the requisite drama, don't you think?
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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    We are also at that point in the season where the excitement of the start of the season has worn away and the team is not on fire. At the same time it is still too small of a sample size to make conclusions about how the team or an individual will do for the year or in a certain role. It is also a time when it is too early to make conclusions on how Dusty will pan out. Soon we can throw stats out there and not face the small sample size problems all of the time.

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    Re: Pretty Quiet Around Here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    Then again, there are also likely some devistated by the loss of my pithy commentary. Nate likely is.
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