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    Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    I am not sure about how Dunn's current contract would come into play, but this would have been a far better move for the Reds. I believe the Rangers would have gone for it as well.

    IMHO, i would take a Josh Hamilton over an Adam Dunn any day of the week.

    Dunn struggles in more areas than he excels in. Hamilton is a 5 tool guy.....enough said.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Although most will not agree with you, I actually will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal#23Fan View Post
    I am not sure about how Dunn's current contract would come into play, but this would have been a far better move for the Reds. I believe the Rangers would have gone for it as well.

    IMHO, i would take a Josh Hamilton over an Adam Dunn any day of the week.

    Dunn struggles in more areas than he excels in. Hamilton is a 5 tool guy.....enough said.
    If a Dunn for Volquez/Herrera trade would have gone down you would not be reading this post right now. The thermo-nuclear (over)reaction to that trade would have nuked Redszone right off the web for weeks. Hell, maybe months or even years. Perhaps rightfully so.

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    The Rangers would not have traded their best pitching prospect (plus an interesting low-minors arm) for one year of Adam Dunn. MLB-ready starters with minimal service time are incredibly valuable, and sometimes you have to give value to get value.

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    I know there is some serious man love for Dunn on here, but i have never seen the results on the field. Yeah, Dunn gives you 40 HR's and 90+ RBIs, but plays lazy defense, has a terrible arm, strikes out on average around 150 times per year, and has a .248 career BA.

    Sorry.....i just don't see it.

    Here's to the minority

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    The Rangers would not have traded their best pitching prospect (plus an interesting low-minors arm) for one year of Adam Dunn. MLB-ready starters with minimal service time are incredibly valuable, and sometimes you have to give value to get value.
    I wonder if the Reds at least sent out some feelers?

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal#23Fan View Post
    I am not sure about how Dunn's current contract would come into play, but this would have been a far better move for the Reds. I believe the Rangers would have gone for it as well.

    IMHO, i would take a Josh Hamilton over an Adam Dunn any day of the week.

    Dunn struggles in more areas than he excels in. Hamilton is a 5 tool guy.....enough said.
    Actually, Hamilton has six tools if you count the crack pipe as a tool.

    I know, I know, but seriously, he was (and still is) a major risk to relapse and has always been injury-prone. This is one of the few instances where the front office did the right thing and sold high (get it? Hamilton? High?).

    After Dunn's failure to run over the tiniest catcher in baseball Sunday, though, I finally don't give a crap if they don't extend him.
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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    The Rangers really wanted Josh Hamilton, and rightfully so. He was a very talented outfield prospect, was going to be cheap for a long time, and had already proved himself with 1 year of MLB experience. Dunn, on the other hand, was in his option year, and was going to be very expensive in free agency. I doubt anyone but Hamilton(possibly Bruce) was ever in trade talks.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    The Rangers would not have traded their best pitching prospect (plus an interesting low-minors arm) for one year of Adam Dunn. MLB-ready starters with minimal service time are incredibly valuable, and sometimes you have to give value to get value.
    His salary would have been the biggest hindrance IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmarilloRed View Post
    The Rangers really wanted Josh Hamilton, and rightfully so. He was a very talented outfield prospect, was going to be cheap for a long time, and had already proved himself with 1 year of MLB experience. Dunn, on the other hand, was in his option year, and was going to be very expensive in free agency. I doubt anyone but Hamilton(possibly Bruce) was ever in trade talks.
    Sounds about right....i keep forgetting Dunn was in his option year last year.

    Who could we get for Dunn at this point?? Move Dunn ASAP and insert Bruce into his spot.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal#23Fan View Post
    Sounds about right....i keep forgetting Dunn was in his option year last year.

    Who could we get for Dunn at this point?? Move Dunn ASAP and insert Bruce into his spot.
    He has a no-trade clause prior to June 15th. After that date, he has a list of 19 teams where he can be traded.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    He has a no-trade clause prior to June 15th. After that date, he has a list of 19 teams where he can be traded.
    I have heard it is 10 teams, all chosen by Adam.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal#23Fan View Post
    Sounds about right....i keep forgetting Dunn was in his option year last year.

    Who could we get for Dunn at this point?? Move Dunn ASAP and insert Bruce into his spot.
    I think the Reds would have loved to trade Dunn instead of Hamilton, but when they picked up his option, a clause in contract stipulated that Dunn could not be traded until June of 08. They were stuck for him.

    I agree, I would rather see Bruce replace Dunn than Griffey or even Patterson. As for who could the Reds get for him? Basically they would take anything more than what they think they can get with a first round draft pick and a supplemental pick. So at least one top 10 prospects, and one top 20. It will all depend on who needs a big hitter at the trade deadline. Let's hope it's the Devil Rays, their system is stacked.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    He has a no-trade clause prior to June 15th. After that date, he has a list of 19 teams where he can be traded.
    That is just a negotiating tactic. If the Reds want to trade Dunn right now, they can. It's just that whoever takes will have to give him a long term extension, before the trade is finalized. That is why players want no trade clauses, as leverage so they can be bought out of them.

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    Re: Could we have traded Dunn for Volquez?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Natty Redlocks View Post
    After Dunn's failure to run over the tiniest catcher in baseball Sunday, though, I finally don't give a crap if they don't extend him.

    Really? That's the tipping point for you?


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