Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
A rather surprising move.
I have to agree with what some others have said here: Looking at the very strange timing of this move, I would have to say there is a lot more than meets the eye. Dumping your GM in late April seems a rare move.
I liked Wayne - I thought he made some excellent pickups (Phillips, Arroyo, Burton, Hamilton, Vosquez), but he also had a lot of head scratchers (Castro, Stanton, Sarloos). Then again, what GM has ever been perfect?
Krivsky was headed to the deadline with Dunn. For Dunn's July - September services this year, WK wasn't going to be offered much. So he probably would have played out the string and let Dunn walk as a free agent.
Most GMs re-structure major league teams to their own taste. O'Brien didn't at all. Krivsky did to a limited extent, but didn't rip the core apart.
I think Jocketty will. My guess is that he will change the offensive core of the team and that Dunn, a potential free agent, is the obvious place to start. My guess is that by mid-season, the outfield of this team will be Griffey in right, Bruce in center, new guy good righty hitter in left.
in the near future. And with Jr unlikely to be around in 2009 that is now a 2nd rabbit Jocketty will have to pull out of a hat.good righty hitter
I think a guys like Stubbs and Jr now have a much higher potential of being traded since likely have little future in Cincy anyway.
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Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
I have to admit, I once fired a guy because another person became available for the position.
The decision to give Dunn $60 or 70 million in a long-term deal is a major one and is very debatable. If Jocketty doesn't intend to go that route, I would expect a deal in the first half of this season to move Dunn.
On the other hand, Jr. would probably accept a shorter, cheaper contract and may be more likely to stay at reduced rates. Stubbs is not a factor in this, he's a young player, and will either be included in a deal or continue his development as a Reds prospect.
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And if he walks the ability to trade the picks and others can't realistically happen until after June 2010 ... a little late.
and is unlikely to be worth it.On the other hand, Jr. would probably accept a shorter, cheaper contract and may be more likely to stay at reduced rates.
PECOTA predicts a MORP of $2.3M in 2009 and $1.2M in 2010 for Jr.
2 things are very likely
1) if signed, Dunn will be overpriced
2) his trade will not bring an adequate replacement
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