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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    Bob complimented Dusty Baker during the post-presser interview on WLW.

    He also mentioned his disgust over the team's recent "lackadaisical play."

    Yeah, like 21 games will tell you that much

    I think Cast needs some prozac.

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltlabner View Post
    I think he is saying Kemp > Hamilton in terms of being a better fit for the Reds.

    Kemp is a righty. Doesn't have the baggage. Maybe less injury prone (not sure about that).
    That was also part of it.

    The LHB/RHB thing doesn't bother me that much, unless the player has really bad splits. Hamilton could only hit RHP.

    Kemp should play in more games a year than Hamilton over the rest of their careers.

    I think Kemp is a great fit for the Reds. Hopefully Jocketty can make that a reality.

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    If only we could have O'Brien's farm system, Krivsky's rotation, Bowden's bullpen, Krivsky's bargains ...

    or maybe just the ghost of Bob Howsam (without the free agents) ...

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by BRM View Post
    Doubtful. He was here before everyone else got here.

    And he'll be here long after everyone else is gone.

    Marty will still be on the airwaves, even after the apocolypse when baseball games are no longer played. He is the Cincinnati Reds after all (in his own mind at least)

    I'm guessing Marty will like this move. He's been pretty critical of this team lately and I remember that he accused Wayne of lying within a few days (might've been yesterday). Marty basically said Wayne was a liar, just like Bowden in a roundabout way .. Said something like "Well, we're used to getting lies from the GM"..
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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    I think the presser started about 4:02. I tried to open the feed at reds.com at 4:20 when WLW dropped its coverage and it wasn't there.
    4:20, huh? I think that was your problem.
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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Walt JeKetty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Walt JeKetty
    Or the famous Yankee pitcher Dave Rocketty.
    /r/reds

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Walt JeKetty
    Eddie and Tracy are hammering her for saying that.
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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    4:20, huh? I think that was your problem.
    I did notice I was hungry after I couldn't find the feed. Maybe there's a connection?
    /r/reds

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    I guess there's some possibility of him playing a game like that, but then again, Tampa's got some horses that would be great to have. They're an up and coming organization with a growing stable of young talent.

    That said, such games are possible, but I don't think likely. But we're not as hamstrung after June 15th - I think Dunn's going to want to go where he can win. Neither of us have any way of knowing who those clubs will be.

    Then again, a trade could be arranged with Dunn getting a window to negotiate a LTC with another club and waive the no-trade clause. That potentially opens up other possibilities, although it's not likely to happen.

    I think the more likely possibility is that after reaching 600 HR's, we find an acceptable trade partner for Griffey.
    It's a pretty delicate situation though. If you go to Dunn or Jr and ask for the list of clubs they want to be traded to, chances are that you at least partially burn the bridge with both of them.
    Dunn isn't going to want to hear his name in trade rumors for 6-8 weeks.
    We all know that Dunn and Jr are best buddies, so if you approach one or both of them about a trade, you risk Dunn throwing up his hands and testing FA..

    The problem with Dunn listing Tampa as a trading partner is that there's no way they are going to trade for him. It's not that Tampa doesn't have talent. They won't take his salary. Heck, even if the Reds paid Dunn's entire salary, why would they want to give up prospects rent Dunn for 1/2 a year? Renting Dunn only makes sense to contenders. All Dunn has to do to block a trade is list small market teams that aren't contending.

    But back to the other point, if you approach Dunn about a trade and you can't get a good return for him, you've kind of hosed yourself when you go to the negotiation table to resign him. I'm guessing Wayne tested the waters for Dunn last year and didn't get many appealing offers, at least the rumors were that Wayne was testing Dunn's trade value.
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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    Or the famous Yankee pitcher Dave Rocketty.
    Betty SpeKetty?

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Wayne's moves:

    2-12-06: Scott Hatteberg signed to a one-year, $750K deal.
    2-13-06: Adam Dunn signed to two-year, $18.5MM extension.
    3-20-06: Acquired Bronson Arroyo for Wily Mo Pena.
    3-21-06: Acquired David Ross for Bobby Basham.
    4-7-06: Acquired Brandon Phillips for Jeff Stevens.
    5-26-06: Traded Cody Ross to Marlins for a player to be named later.
    June '06: Selected Drew Stubbs eighth overall in draft.
    7-6-06: Acquired Eddie Guardado for Travis Chick.
    7-13-06: Acquired Gary Majewski, Bill Bray, Royce Clayton, Brendan Harris, and Daryl Thompson for Austin Kearns, Felipe Lopez, and Ryan Wagner.
    7-26-06: Signed Hatteberg to a one-year, $1.65MM extension.
    7-31-06: Acquired Rheal Cormier for Justin Germano.
    7-31-06: Acquired Kyle Lohse for Zach Ward.
    8-7-06: Acquired Ryan Franklin for a player to be named later.
    8-16-06: Acquired Scott Schoeneweis for a player to be named later.
    8-28-06: Signed Javier Valentin to a one-year, $1.325MM extension.
    9-25-06: Signed Juan Castro to a two-year, $2MM extension.
    11-20-06: Signed Alex Gonzalez to a three-year, $14MM contract.
    11-20-06: Signed Mike Stanton to a two-year, $5.5MM contract.
    11-20-06: Traded Jason LaRue to the Royals for a player to be named later.
    12-7-06: Acquired Josh Hamilton for cash.
    12-7-06: Selected Jared Burton in Rule 5 draft.
    12-12-06: Signed David Weathers to a two-year, $5MM contract.
    1-2-07: Traded Brendan Harris to Rays for cash.
    1-10-07: Acquired Jeff Keppinger for Russ Haltiwanger.
    2-6-07: Signed Aaron Harang to a four-year, $36.5MM extension.
    2-8-07: Signed Bronson Arroyo to a two-year, $25MM extension.
    4-16-07: Signed Ryan Freel to a two-year, $7MM extension.
    4-27-07: Traded Chris Denorfia to A's for Marcus McBeth and another player.
    5-9-07: Released Rheal Cormier.
    June '07: Selected Devin Mesoraco 15th overall in draft.
    10-31-07: Exercised '08 options on Hatteberg, Dunn, and Valentin.
    11-28-07: Signed Francisco Cordero to a four-year, $46MM contract.
    12-21-07: Acquired Edinson Volquez and Danny Herrera for Josh Hamilton.
    1-23-08: Signed Jeremy Affeldt to a one-year, $3MM contract.
    2-15-08: Signed Brandon Phillips to a four-year, $27MM extension.
    2-21-08: Signed Josh Fogg to a one-year, $1MM contract.
    3-3-08: Signed Corey Patterson to a one-year, $3MM contract.
    4-8-08: Released Mike Stanton.
    4-21-08: Designated Juan Castro for assignment

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlifeman21 View Post
    Kemp's not playing everyday.

    Only Joe Torre has the answer as to why, for us.

    Hamilton also still struggles vs. LHP. I'm not saying it as a knock on him, just pointing it out as fact. I also wonder if Hamilton will be able to hold up for a full season of 140+ games.
    Sorry Hamilton struggling against LH is not a fact. At least he's not thus far.

    .435 OBP .600 SLG 1.035 OPS. In 20 AB's he's also hitting .400.

    I agree that for the Reds Kemp might have more value, but right now, Hamilton's ENORMOUS talent is showing.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Doc sez Krivsky FIRED!

    A take from one of our former teamsters, Gregg Doyel:

    And this is why I hate Cincinnati

    Well, not Cincinnati, per se. Nobody can hate Cincinnati as a city. How do you hate something so harmless, so boring? Do you hate khakis? No you do not. You better not ever choose to wear them, but khakis aren't hateable. Just boring.

    But I do hate the Reds, at this very moment anyway. I hate owner Bob Castellini at the moment for being a jock-sniffer extraordinaire who bought his way into several clubs before finally buying this one outright, and then brought along his old friend from St. Louis, Walt Jocketty, as an adviser -- and then waited all of 24 days into the 2008 season to fire general manager Wayne Krivsky and replace him with ... Jocketty.

    I hate Jocketty at the moment for coming here to so clearly steal another man's job, without having the decency, or the guts, to simply take it outright on his first day in town. Jocketty let Krivsky squirm for a while -- as his "adviser" -- before gutting him on Wednesday.

    I hate the fact that I'm speaking the truth but the Reds will complain about me and probably try, again, to keep me out of their clubhouse because they're not used to a media member with fangs.

    Done venting.

    But not done hating.


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