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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    The excuse of the incapable.
    Right, because the 2005 Cardinals who finished 4 games over .500 were truly the best team in baseball. Or the losing WS team each of the last 3 years was a team that couldn't win its own division. Or that the three years before that both World Series winners couldn't win their own division.

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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    So tee it up for us...tell us what team has ever won the WS without luck?
    1976 Reds - Most dominate team I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    1976 Reds - Most dominate team I've ever seen.
    There have been several in the Bronx as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Right, because the 2005 Cardinals who finished 4 games over .500 were truly the best team in baseball. Or the losing WS team each of the last 3 years was a team that couldn't win its own division. Or that the three years before that both World Series winners couldn't win their own division.
    It was 2006. And it turns out the best team was the Cardinals. It didn't help that Detroit kind of sucked, too, but the Cardinals destroyed the Tigers, and everyone they faced before them.

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    Were the Cards lucky or was everyone else unlucky? I just have a hard time calling any team that wins a WS "lucky". Luck may have helped them some but they don't win the Series without talented players playing good baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    The excuse of the incapable.
    Crud, I agree totally ...

    Great teams make their own luck...

    Good teams that get on a roll at the right time are no more lucky than that...they simply make their own luck too...

    To have it said better than I: "I am a great believer in luck...and I find the harder I work, the more of it I have!"- Thomas Jefferson

    Over 162 games, many things will have an impact...but a cumulative effect of luck is not one of them...


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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You mean like paying Mike Lamb 3.5 million to hit .177/.212/.258?
    Or like paying Adam Everett 2.8 million to hit .185/.214/.222?
    Maybe like Michael Cuddyer 6 million to hit .278/.278/.278 and come off of the bench as a defensive replacement since the first week of April?
    Maybe Nick Punto making 2.4 million for his last two craptastic seasons?

    Lets not pretend like the Reds are the only team with bad players making some money to suck. It goes on with every team in baseball, it just gets magnified here because we follow the Reds.

    As for running the team like the Twins.... he was. He just didn't have the time to get it into full Twins mode. He was going young, but he had to keep/sign some guys in order to give his guys the chance to get to the Reds. He didn't get the time to do that. Rome wasn't built in a day.
    The Twins don't allow themselves the luxury of simultaneously paying the likes of contracts such as Dunn, Griffey, Harang, Cordero and Arroyo.

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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    If you missed it, there's a good chance he'll replay it while on 700 WLW this weekend...like maybe during the Inside Pitch tomorrow, or after the Bengals draft....

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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    If you missed it, there's a good chance he'll replay it while on 700 WLW this weekend...like maybe during the Inside Pitch tomorrow, or after the Bengals draft....
    Ipod of the interview: At Homer under Cutler
    Last edited by Spring~Fields; 04-25-2008 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    When you've beaten the obvious to death, what else more is there to say?
    That Wayne had great success following the blueprint for small franchise success in Minnesota, the likes of which the Reds haven't tasted consistently in 30+ years???

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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    The excuse of the incapable.
    Yea, like Billy Beane and his "incapable" 90+ win per season average this millenium. I wonder if Bob Castellini, and his 72+ win franchise (over the same timespan) would take that type of insufficiency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    So tee it up for us...tell us what team has ever won the WS without luck?

    If all it takes is someone capable then the Yankees should have won the series every year since the reign of terror began back in the 90's...they often had teams that were considered much more capable than their competition and still haven't won a WS in a while.

    There's an expression that luck is the residue of good design.

    The interesting thing about the playoffs is that the same roster that can win a division title and get you to the playoff is not necessarily the best designed roster for the postseason. I think that explains a lot of the luck factor.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    There's an expression that luck is the residue of good design.

    The interesting thing about the playoffs is that the same roster that can win a division title and get you to the playoff is not necessarily the best designed roster for the postseason. I think that explains a lot of the luck factor.
    Meaning what, exactly? Care to explain the disparity between the franchises who purchase a run at the title in recent year (Yankees, Red Sox), and those who have done so by superior pitching design (Marlins)? Looks like Wayne was trying to follow a mixture of the Marlins and Twins model, but that's a hard thing to pull off within 2 freaking seasons.

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    P.S. The Marlins started the first twenty games of their 2003 World Series run at 9-11, so I'm sure you would have approved of scrapping that season 20 games in as well?

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    Re: Krivsky Interview on 1530 HOMER

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
    Yea, like Billy Beane and his "incapable" 90+ win per season average this millenium. I wonder if Bob Castellini, and his 72+ win franchise (over the same timespan) would take that type of insufficiency?
    I'm not an expert on the A's by any means. The A's had the three good starting pitchers that a postseason team wants. I think the teams that had big slow guys with good OBP was not as conducive to scoring runs in the postseason. Those guys are great for pounding average or bad pitching.
    In the postseason, the pitching is much better. The ace pitchers are less likely to walk people. Also, I think defense is much more important in the postseason.

    I don't pretend to have all the answers on this, but it seems that at least some of Beane's teams were poorly designed for the postseason.

    The 1990 Reds sweep of Oakland was a real eye opener. Sure, the Reds were fortunate to have Billy Hatcher hit .750, but it was a great defensive team with an awesome bullpen and good enough starting pitching. It also had a nice smallball offense and speed at just about every lineup position (other than 1b or C). Conventional wisdom picked the Oakland sluggers, but those guys were not facing mediocre pitching that they could mash. Also, their defense was not as good as Cincy... Again, just an example, but I don't think the Reds swept the A's that year based on luck.
    Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2010-2014!

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