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    Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Who would it be?

    I haven't been here forever, but it seems like the ones that come up (or came up) the most are:

    Chris Denorfia
    Elizardo Ramirez
    Wily Mo Pena
    Ben Broussard
    Austin Kearns

    Who have I missed? Who would you rank highest?

    I think the Lizard probably deserves the crown, based on what I've seen/read in the past.

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    The Lizard and Denoforia are definitely a top contenders.

    Oslwedo Fernandez was another one, predicted to be an ace by some, after a decent partial season.

    Brandon Claussen was another "sure fire ace", despite coming off a major arm injury and being a very questionable prospect.

    Rob Bell wasn't the most overrated, but he's probably between #10-20, as was Stynes.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Brandon Claussen was another "sure fire ace", despite coming off a major arm injury and being a very questionable prospect.
    I was up in the booth for his debut. I couldn't stay the whole game (it was a day game) because I had to work, so I took advantage of the perk.

    I bought into the hype

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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Who would it be?

    I haven't been here forever, but it seems like the ones that come up (or came up) the most are:

    Chris Denorfia
    Elizardo Ramirez
    Wily Mo Pena
    Ben Broussard
    Austin Kearns

    Who have I missed? Who would you rank highest?

    I think the Lizard probably deserves the crown, based on what I've seen/read in the past.
    I dunno. I think that list is accurate. More importantly, when Freel, Hopper, and Hatteberg leave, will they make the list?
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    I dunno. I think that list is accurate. More importantly, when Freel, Hopper, and Hatteberg leave, will they make the list?
    I don't think Hatteberg is on that list, he was a very good 1st baseman, but he's just being replaced by an even better one. I would think you have to be a disappointing player to make the list, at least the way I look at it.

    Felipe Lopez was definitely overrated IMO. You can say what you want about Krivsky not listening to advisers about "the trade", but those advisers definitely overvalued Kearns and Lopez.

    One player I really liked at the time was Alex Ochoa. He never really turned into anything, but he showed some power and had one of the best arms I have ever seen in person.

    I also wasn't around Redszone at the time of Pokey Reese, but he seems to be a likely type of candidate.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Quote Originally Posted by acredsfan View Post
    I also wasn't around Redszone at the time of Pokey Reese, but he seems to be a likely type of candidate.
    How could we forget Pokey, he of the website and all the hype that surrounded him. Good call.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    How could we forget Pokey, he of the website and all the hype that surrounded him. Good call.
    I think he was overrated in general, but Pokey didn't get that much love from Redszoners/Fastballers (I forget where we were then). He was generally viewed as a poor hitter that played just because of his glove.

    Some of these choices are interesting. I guess people interpret overrated differently, but that makes for good reading.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Do minor leaguers count, because if they do Milton Loo needs a place on the list.

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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Juan Castro.

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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Felipe Lopez, hands down, even more so that Kearns.

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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Felipe Lopez, hands down, even more so that Kearns.
    Right players, but wrong order. Kearns gets the most inordinate amount of love here because hails from an hour south on I-75 and he preferred to play for the Reds.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Denorfia and Broussard are neck-in-neck as far as I'm concerned. I never understood the love affair with either, especially Deno. So far, history has proven me correct on Broussard, and I still think I'll be right on Deno.

    Some ex-Reds personally overrated by me:

    Russ Branyan
    Bruce Chen
    David Espinosa
    Brandon Claussen
    Corey Patterson??
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    I think you have to distinguish between overrated before they came to the Reds and overrated after they left.

    Once you have to set up the scale based on 1. number of posters overrating player, and 2. Actual performance of player since being dealt.

    High on list #1: Denorfia, Broussard, Kearns, Lopez
    High on list #2(High being lesser performance): Lizard, Broussard, Lopez

    My number one player is Lopez followed closely by Broussard.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    I overrate most of them because they're Reds.

    My biggest miss was Lopez.

    In my experience on the site Denorfia wins the grand prize.
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    Re: Most overrated former Red by RZ'ers?

    Aaron Boone. Heart in my throat every time he threw the ball. Swung like a 40 HR guy, but actually was a 20 HR guy (max). Flipped the fans the bird. Loved by Redszone. See ya!
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