Time To Send Junior and Dunn Packing

[Krusty]

I know it is early but a 12-19 record isn't what Reds fans or owners envisioned for what was supposed to be a promising season with a season veteran manager onboard.

And what we have seen so far is what we have seen the past two years. Only difference is an improved starting rotation with the young arms and a much improved bullpen. But the offense still can't manufacture runs and Dunn's inablility to hit with runners in scoring position is enough to drive even mild manner Reds fans nuts.

Things won't change unless there is new blood. Time to bring up Bruce and Bailey. Time to send Junior packing back to Seattle where he can wrap up a Hall of Fame career. Get a couple of prospects and move on. Keep Dunn till the midseason trading deadline. Then get the best deal you can and put the money saved towards a free agent or two for the 2009 season.

While it might seem like I'm throwing in the towel, the reality is what you're seeing now is what you have been watching the past two years. And no matter how many GMs and managers you fire, the product on the field won't improved until you make changes.

Hopefully the Reds can change their fortunes but if they keep the same motley crew, expect another brutal season.

[CTA513]

Can't do anything with them unless they want to leave.

[VR]

Not that bad...if you add them together, they're almost hitting .300 vs. lefties

[Krusty]

Can't do anything with them unless they want to leave.

If you're Junior, the only thing missing in a Hall of Fame career is the opportunity to play in a World Series. At this stage of his career, I think he would approve a trade to have that opportunity.

Come June, the Reds will have some teams that aren't on Dunn's no trade list. His inability to hit in the clutch is prime reason why he shouldn't get a multi-year deal for 15+ million a season.

[Krusty]

One more note......if I was Bob Castanelli I would personally make a trip to the clubhouse after the game and be chewing some asses.

[pahster]

One more note......if I was Bob Castanelli I would personally make a trip to the clubhouse after the game and be chewing some asses.

Why?

[Spring~Fields]

One more note......if I was Bob Castanelli I would personally make a trip to the clubhouse after the game and be chewing some asses.

Could you imagine having to sign the checks for this, must be maddening.

I know it is taboo on RZ but I am tired of the Griffey/Dunn show too.

[Krusty]

If I'm signing these guys' paychecks, would you be happy with a 12-19 performance so far this season?

How do you change the losing atmosphere if the players aren't changing their losing ways?

When it is time to go, it is time to go. And for alot of these players, it is time to remove the stench of losing the past several years.

[reds44]

It'd be nice if the Reds had somebody in the minors to dip down into for help, but with the way both Bruce and even more so Rosales are scuffling, the Reds are stuck at this point.

[Krusty]

Could you imagine having to sign the checks for this, must be maddening.

I know it is taboo on RZ but I am tired of the Griffey/Dunn show too.

It isn't taboo when you're telling the truth. I seriously question how committed Griffey and Dunn are to winning.

[reds44]

Could you imagine having to sign the checks for this, must be maddening.

I know it is taboo on RZ but I am tired of the Griffey/Dunn show too.

Same. It's time to move on.

[Krusty]

It'd be nice if the Reds had somebody in the minors to dip down into for help, but with the way both Bruce and even more so Rosales are scuffling, the Reds are stuck at this point.

I would rather lose with young players learning the ropes instead of overpriced veterans who don't seem to have a clue how to play the game.

Young players give you hope. Look at the Diamondbacks.

[pahster]

If I'm signing these guys' paychecks, would you be happy with a 12-19 performance so far this season?

How do you change the losing atmosphere if the players aren't changing their losing ways?

When it is time to go, it is time to go. And for alot of these players, it is time to remove the stench of losing the past several years.

Cast has no one to blame but himself. He's the one who hired Krivsky.

It isn't taboo when you're telling the truth. I seriously question how committed Griffey and Dunn are to winning.

Poppycock.

[kaldaniels]

Why?

If you have to ask, you'll never know. :

[Krusty]

Cast has no one to blame but himself. He's the one who hired Krivsky.



Poppycock.

I still think Krivsky got a raw deal. He had the organization on the right track.

Look at the past five losing seasons and what two players have been on this roster consuming a quarter of the payroll........? Dunn and Griffey.

If you're not going to hold them accountable for their play on the field, then who do you hold accountable? How many GMs and managers do you have to fire to realize that the players determine the wins-losses during a season?