Time To Send Junior and Dunn Packing

[reds44]

I would rather lose with young players learning the ropes instead of overpriced veterans who don't seem to have a clue how to play the game.

Young players give you hope. Look at the Diamondbacks.

This is a tune a lot of us have been singing for years now, and I just do not see it happening, especially with BCast as the owner.

Maybe with Dunn and Griffey being free agents it will force our hand, but it seems like we are stuck trying to rebuild and contend at the same time. Either the Reds need to up their payroll with the big market clubs (which they won't/can't) or they need to rebuild (which they haven't). You think we would learn from our mistakes, but it seems like we don't. For the better part of the last decade we've been stuck in the middle.

[Tony Cloninger]

It does remind me of the Bengals of the middle to late 90's now.... James Francis comes to mind..... they guy knew he could just half A it and no one was going to sit him or replace him.

Not that i think Dunn or Griffey are Francis like doggers.....just that with no near ready replacements on the horizon....there is more job security than there should be allowed on this team.

As far as why not? to BC chewing some A? Beacuse he cares and he has to pay and watch for this type of garbage.

[Spring~Fields]

It isn't taboo when you're telling the truth. I seriously question how committed Griffey and Dunn are to winning.

I don't think that they have the ability to do what other great players do, Griffey is in decline, yeah he will get hot sometime, but he is in decline and AD is what he has been for a long time. I think Dunn, Griffey and the Reds each would be better off with a change in scenery.

[Krusty]

Man, I get upset with my fantasy baseball team. I hate to be Bob C. watching this crap and asking myself why I'm paying these guys the money they are getting.

[Tony Cloninger]

I think the other 20+ WK spent on bad back up players and washed up pitchers...is more of a problem than Griffey and Dunn....at least until this year.

If the next 30 games show more of the same...then you can add both of them to the list.

[reds44]

I think the other 20+ WK spent on bad back up players and washed up pitchers...is more of a problem than Griffey and Dunn....at least until this year.

If the next 30 games show more of the same...then you can add both of them to the list.

Add them both together and this is what you get.

[pahster]

I still think Krivsky got a raw deal. He had the organization on the right track.

Look at the past five losing seasons and what two players have been on this roster consuming a quarter of the payroll........? Dunn and Griffey.

If you're not going to hold them accountable for their play on the field, then who do you hold accountable? How many GMs and managers do you have to fire to realize that the players determine the wins-losses during a season?

I seem to recall Krivsky signing Dunn to an extension and then picking up his option.

They're slumping, Dunn likely more than Griffey, who is getting pretty old. It happens. They'll heat up. I doubt getting yelled at by an old fat man who never played is going to help.

[Spring~Fields]

I would rather lose with young players learning the ropes instead of overpriced veterans who don't seem to have a clue how to play the game.

Young players give you hope. Look at the Diamondbacks.

After what we have been through the past seven or so seasons I would appreciate seeing some young, passionate, cock of the walk can do young players with some competitive fire.

[Krusty]

If is true that Cormier's salary was paid by the A's in the Denorfia trade, then the two salaries the Reds ate were Castro and Stanton's. Patterson was a Dusty Baker recommendation.

But when you're paying $25 million on Griffey and Dunn and they can't drive runners in scoring position, I think Bob C. can find cheaper options that will give the same lousy production.

[Spring~Fields]

I think the other 20+ WK spent on bad back up players and washed up pitchers

He did do quite a bit of that, getting poor supporting cast for the team, that hurt the Reds too, and us fans.

I hope that Jocketty makes some good moves.

[kaldaniels]

I seem to recall Krivsky signing Dunn to an extension and then picking up his option.

They're slumping, Dunn likely more than Griffey, who is getting pretty old. It happens. They'll heat up. I doubt getting yelled at by an old fat man who never played is going to help.

I agree they'll heat up. However I know some have said you can't blame 2 players for a teams poor performance...but plug an average #3 hitter and an average #5 hitter into the Reds lineup for the month of April and I'd conservately give them 3 more wins...still not a great record but it wouldn't be such a disaster.

[Krusty]

I think come Monday we could see some moves by Jockerty.

I think Bob C. will push Jockerty to make some changes.

[CTA513]

Man, I get upset with my fantasy baseball team. I hate to be Bob C. watching this crap and asking myself why I'm paying these guys the money they are getting.

He should get mad at himself for liking Dunn so much that he keeps re-signing him.

[kaldaniels]

And again...players slump...its a fact of life. I just wish there wasn't such a stigma regarding moving Dunn and Jr around in the lineup and/or sitting them for a few games. Tonights lineup was a slight step in the right direction.

[BCubb2003]

But when you're paying $25 million on Griffey and Dunn and they can't drive runners in scoring position, I think Bob C. can find cheaper options that will give the same lousy production.
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I feel your pain, Krusty.