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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    I don't think it was him who traded Kazmir.
    Yikes, that must've been Jim Duquette. My bad. Doesn't make Phillips any smarter unfortunately.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    For the most part, I actually thought he targeted the right people for the Reds to move, but unless he wants to see 5 other GMs lose their jobs as he has, none of the targets were realistic at all.

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by SMcGavin View Post
    Burton and Affeldt for Phil Hughes... it's so obvious, how did nobody think of it before?
    That sounds like a deal Krivsky would pull the trigger on if he was Yanks GM.
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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    - Griffey for Fields/Quentin
    - Dunn for Cain/Lee & Gutierrez
    - Affeldt and Burton for Hughes

    I think he forgot Santana for Todd Coffey to address the Mets bullpen problem and Belisle for Granderson to fix the Tigers rotation.

    He's still trying to undo the Kazmir deal. Continues to realize that both teams need to want to do a deal. Guy is just clueless. How can you get a GM job with so little understanding of player value? Ridiculous.

    Pretty sad state of affairs when the biggest sports media can't see past the guy's resume.
    He had nothing to do with the Kazmir trade. That was Jim Duquette in all his brilliance.

    Edit- Too slow.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    Affeldt and Burton for Hughes is particularly ludicrous.
    Absolutely.

    And yet, in a world with Hank Steinbrenner itching to make his own name and the hated Red Sox winners of two World Series since the Yankees last appeared? The day Hank decides he's had enough of that "patience" thing Cashman keeps talking about, it wouldn't hurt to be first in line.
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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Yikes, that must've been Jim Duquette. My bad. Doesn't make Phillips any smarter unfortunately.

    Well, I can't argue with you there.

    Is this a great country or what? We spend all day here
    making goofy trade suggestions and Phillips gets paid for his goofy suggestions.
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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Steve Phillips lost his job as a MLB GM. That's all I have to say.
    Walt Jocketty says hi.
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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    Walt Jocketty says hi.
    ...and Steve Phillips' track record isn't in the same ballpark as Walt Jocketty's.

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Well, those are some interesting ideas.

    1. I agree with him that we need to (forget should, it's to the point of need now) trade Griffey. However, the SouthSiders are no longer a good target/destination for Junior. They are a franchise in disarray, and have zero use for Junior. Assuming Griffey wanted to go to the White Sox, and assuming they still wanted him, we absolutely wouldn't get either Fields or Quentin. Detroit's a better fit/target for Junior right now, that way he could platoon with Sheffield. Will it happen? Probably not.

    2. I think trading Dunn is a criminally stupid idea for the Reds, and not just b/c I'm fond of Dunn. We need offense and Dunn's been a major contributor in that department since 2001. Should Jocketty decide to deal Dunn at or near the deadline, the return has to help the Reds in 2009 and going forward. The return can't move the Reds window of winning back to 2010. Like I said, mark me down for extending Dunn for 4-5 years, but I absolutely wouldn't trade him unless the return greatly improved the Reds. Such a return does not exist in a deal involving Dunn, therefore keep him.

    3. Bronson needs to go, but bringing up Bailey as a direct result of trading Arroyo isn't the answer either. Trade Bronson, plug Fogg back into rotation, and then in September bring up Homer and have him be part of 3 guys for 2 rotation spots with Fogg and Belisle. At this point in time, Bronson's contract will handcuff us going forward, so we do need to salary dump him. However, just b/c we trade Arroyo doesn't mean Bailey's clock needs to be started. Wait until September.

    4. I never thought I'd think this, let alone say it, but stay away from Phil Hughes. His body needs to mature and be able to endure the physical beating that is being a MLB SP. He's too injured for my liking, and I honestly wouldn't trade Burton for him right now unless I was absolutely sure we weren't getting damaged or potentially damaged goods. I'm hoping we'll be able to get something that will help us for the future by trading Affeldt, but I'm not holding my breath.

    5. Not only do I trade Ryan Freel, but I trade Alex Gonzalez. Trade em both. Bring up Janish, and plug him in as a defensive specialist. Or, if you don't wanna go that route, b/c Janish may not AVG or OBP his weight at the MLB level, then leave him down in AAA and use Hairston as a back up SS. Or get really crazy and use Phillips as the "back up" SS, and if Kountry Kepp (I just like it spelled better with 2 Ks) needs a day off slide Phillips over to SS and plug Hairston in @ 2B. Where do I trade Freel and Gonzalez? At this point, I don't see the Dodgers needing Freel, and I don't see anyone needing Gonzalez. But regardless, find a suitor and give them away for peanuts. Use the money saved for 2009 to go overpay for someone in FA.

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Gee I was joking when I threw these out there yesterday but I think Phillips would give the go ahead to put me on the ESPN team. I think these would help fix the Reds too.
    Fogg and Majewski for Hanley Ramirez
    Arroyo and Coffee for Pujols
    Weathers and Lehr for Joe Mauer
    Belisle and Matt Maloney for Justin Upton

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Steve Phillips lost his job as a MLB GM. That's all I have to say.
    So did the current Reds GM
    Go Gators!

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Steve Phillips for President!
    "I saw Wedding Crashers accidentally. I bought a ticket for Grizzly Man and went into the wrong theater. After an hour, I figured I was in the wrong theater, but I kept waiting. Thatís the thing about bear attacks. They come when you least expect it."-Dwight K. Schrute

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

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    Steve Phillips for President!

    Yes! Then he'd stop writing for ESPN.
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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    I'd rather trade Burton and Affeldt for Brandon Webb.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Re: Steve Phillips thinks he can fix the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I'd rather trade Burton and Affeldt for Brandon Webb.
    It would open the spot for Scherzer the D'Backs owner has been pining for...
    "I saw Wedding Crashers accidentally. I bought a ticket for Grizzly Man and went into the wrong theater. After an hour, I figured I was in the wrong theater, but I kept waiting. Thatís the thing about bear attacks. They come when you least expect it."-Dwight K. Schrute


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