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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I can buy Phillips batting leadoff though, at least when Hairston stops hitting (which he will).

    He already has, really. His OBP is down to the 330 range.
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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Phillips
    Bruce
    Dunn
    Eddie
    Votto
    Junior
    Hariston
    Catcher

    With the team built the way it is now, Phillips really should be leading off.

    A top five of Phillips/Bruce/Dunn/Eddie/Votto would step on pitchers necks early.
    I like that lineup. gettrrrrrr dunnn

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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by flyer85 View Post
    against RHP Phillips should bat higher than 5th, he has awful splits.
    last time i looked Phillips had an OPS of 1.3 vs lhp. yes 1.3 .
    vs rhp it was less than .7 ( in 2006/2007 it was ~.750)

    so hit him say 3rd vs lhp and 7th vs rhp.
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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    I'd like to run something like this, if one of these CFs can get on base .370 clip like they are showing potential for.

    Stubbs/Cumberland CF
    Encarnacion 3B
    Bruce RF
    Dunn LF
    Votto 1B
    Phillips 2B
    Ross/other catcher C
    Janish SS

    or

    Stubbs/Cumberland CF
    Keppinger SS
    Bruce RF
    Dunn LF
    Votto 1B
    Phillips 2B
    Encarnacion 3B
    Ross/other catcher C

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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeyenut View Post
    I'd like to run something like this, if one of these CFs can get on base .370 clip like they are showing potential for.

    Stubbs/Cumberland CF
    Encarnacion 3B
    Bruce RF
    Dunn LF
    Votto 1B
    Phillips 2B
    Ross/other catcher C
    Janish SS

    or

    Stubbs/Cumberland CF
    Keppinger SS
    Bruce RF
    Dunn LF
    Votto 1B
    Phillips 2B
    Encarnacion 3B
    Ross/other catcher C
    It might take several years for either Stubbs or Cumberland to play in Cincinnati

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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    Dusty would never group them together in the lineup. No way!
    "panic" only comes from having real expectations

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    Re: Bruce/Dunn/Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Sign Dunn, keep Bruce in CF until his actual play merits a move, shift EE or Frazier to RF and you can keep everybody.

    I think Junior's horrific lack of range in RF has really exacerbated the CF problem. Put a good RF in place and an average-plus guy like Bruce makes the OF defense much less of a problem, especially given those bats.

    It would also let you carry Janish as your SS without having two black holes in the lineup. Let's be realistic; there aren't good-OBP plus defending CF available. Conceptually it's a great idea, but they just aren't out there to be had. Utilizing Bruce in CF and finding a better RF solution seems like the best approach to me.

    I know we lack a true leadoff hitter -- something which is bound to make Dusty bat Janish up at the top, but I'd love to see his hand forced by taking away those god-awful options.
    I like most of this. Dunn-Bruce-Votto-Encarnacion-Phillips-Frazier is like a pretty good hitting group. The one thing I'm not sure about is Janish at SS. I'm waiting for some results for this year to see if his defense is actually top-five in the league like people have suggested. It really needs to be elite (not just pretty good) to justify starting what's likely to be in the ballpark of a .650 OPS.


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