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    Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Update on last year's Jay Bruce
    Posted by JohnFay at 5/29/2008 12:04 PM EDT on Cincinnati.com

    Homer Bailey was last year's Jay Bruce. His debut -- a 4-3 victory over Cleveland -- was one of the electric moments of 2007. Striking out Dave Dellucci with the bases loaded and reds leading 3-2 got the loudest roar of the year.

    Bailey ended going 4-2 with 5.76 ERA. The year included a return to Louisville to get things straightened out.

    Bailey has been in Louisville all this year, or course. He was very good his last time out -- six innings, five hits, one run, four walks, four strikeouts. But Bailey had allowed at four runs or more in his previous four starts. Overall, he's 4-4 with a 4.05 ERA. His hits per inning -- 63 in 66 2/3 -- show his stuff is still good.

    But there's been talk about him not doing what the Reds have asked. Not playing well with others and generally being a jerk.

    Terry Reynolds, the Reds farm director, was in Columbus for Bailey's last outing.

    "The stuff was there," Reynolds said. "He walked too many. But he pitched well. He looked good."

    What about the talk of him not being with the program?

    "That's not true," Reynolds said. "He's got a good working relationship with (pitching coach) Ted Power and (manager) Rick Sweet."

    I think Bailey gets bad rap because he is not media friendly. I wrote about that during spring training. He could take a PR lesson from Bruce. But if Bailey can come up here and get people out, fans don't care. Some guys who are awful with the media are great players.

    I think having Daryl Thompson at Louisville may help Bailey. Competition is a good thing.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Well this is a different story than from what we've heard on this board lately. It's good to know that Bailey isn't what he's protrayed on this board.
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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by Degenerate39 View Post
    Well this is a different story than from what we've heard on this board lately. It's good to know that Bailey isn't what he's protrayed on this board.
    Well, its kind of hard to tell one way or another. I guess it depends on who we are willing to believe.

    For arguments sake Reynolds could be sticking up for one of his players and sort of covering his backside at the same time. It is sort of his responsibility to make sure Homer is following instruction.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by gonelong View Post
    Well, its kind of hard to tell one way or another. I guess it depends on who we are willing to believe.

    For arguments sake Reynolds could be sticking up for one of his players and sort of covering his backside at the same time. It is sort of his responsibility to make sure Homer is following instruction.

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    I can't imagine our scouting director would go on the record to say "Homer's still walking too many guys, and he's a jerk."

    Although in Fay's latest, he did say that Homer walked too many....

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    But hasn't most of Bailey's bad PR stemed from Hal McCoy?
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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by smoke6 View Post
    But hasn't most of Bailey's bad PR stemed from Hal McCoy?
    That's what I thought - seemed most of the bad Bailey stories originated from McCoy (and how would he know what is going on down in Louisville?)
    Frankly, I couldn't give a flying goose if Bailey is media-friendly or not - I just want to see him be a good pitcher in the majors.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Fay catches a lot of flak around here, but I think it's important to pat him on the back for this.

    He looks into the Bailey situation. Offers a perspective that shows people in his business should lay off the kid. May make him more unpopular in the media dining room, but he gets credit from me.

    Not that that means much.
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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    I don't care if he is an a-hole but the guy has got to start pitching with some control, let alone command. Until then....

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by redhawk61 View Post
    I don't care if he is an a-hole but the guy has got to start pitching with some control, let alone command. Until then....

    Put another way -- it's rather unfair to stereotype a young pitcher who, as far as I know, has never had a serious off-field problem. If he was starring down in Louisville, perhaps there would be fewer jabs.

    I'm much more interested in his pitching than I am about the media's view of his personality.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by smoke6 View Post
    But hasn't most of Bailey's bad PR stemed from Hal McCoy?
    Yea I think Hal even had a little diddy about Bailey today. It is really a shame that a so called "HOF" writer takes it to personally take shots at Bailey whenever possible. It is even more disturbing because Hal is 3+ hours away from where Bailey has pitched the majority of the games.

    Hal has to get it through his head that Bailey's personality may be that of an introvert. He may not like talking to the media. He may like to go about his job and then retire for the evening. Heck Bailey has even caught flak because he as a 21 year old has been seen in bars. I don't think Bailey has to grow up as much as Hal needs to set his ego aside and start reporting the story not making the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Yea I think Hal even had a little diddy about Bailey today. It is really a shame that a so called "HOF" writer takes it to personally take shots at Bailey whenever possible. It is even more disturbing because Hal is 3+ hours away from where Bailey has pitched the majority of the games.

    Hal has to get it through his head that Bailey's personality may be that of an introvert. He may not like talking to the media. He may like to go about his job and then retire for the evening. Heck Bailey has even caught flak because he as a 21 year old has been seen in bars. I don't think Bailey has to grow up as much as Hal needs to set his ego aside and start reporting the story not making the story.
    Hal took an absolute cheap shot at Bailey today for no reason. This was from todays DDN about last nights CINCINNATI REDS game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal McCoy
    Paul Janish, a great kid, is here. Jay Bruce, a great kid, is here. Homer Bailey is not here. And notice I didnít use the word great.

    You wonder, just wonder, now that he has seen Janish and Bruce leave Louisville, along with Andy Phillips, can Bailey just adjust his attitude and work ethic, show some spunk instead of snarkiness and get himself up here.

    It was no accident that Bruce got pie-faced and water soaked by his teammates after his debut and hardly any teammate paid attention when Bailey was here last year. Bruce is well-liked. Bailey is aloof. A loner. There is a reason for that.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Hal took an absolute cheap shot at Bailey today for no reason. This was from todays DDN about last nights CINCINNATI REDS game.
    Hal must have missed the same pie in the face routine when Bailey got his first win. Hal must feel like a big man. Hal, Seg, and the 1530 guys, are poisoning the well in regards to Homer. The kid is young, lay off.

    Lance had one of the baseballprospectus guys on yesterday, and he basically said the same thing: He needs time, was rushed, and now the luster seems to have worn off. But the stuff is still there. He just needs to focus.

    The weather has heated up, I think Homer will follow suit.
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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Hal must have missed the same pie in the face routine when Bailey got his first win. Hal must feel like a big man. Hal, Seg, and the 1530 guys, are poisoning the well in regards to Homer. The kid is young, lay off.
    Hal is coming off as quite petty IMO. Sad to see how far he has fallen off in the last 5 years or so.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Hal took an absolute cheap shot at Bailey today for no reason. This was from todays DDN about last nights CINCINNATI REDS game.
    Maybe Hal thinks he's lighting a fire under Bailey that will get the kid to perform like the phenom he's supposed to be?

    I don't think Hal's bashing Homer just to bash Homer.

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    Re: Fay update on Homer Bailey with quotes from Terry Reynolds

    I think Bailey gets bad rap because he is not media friendly. I wrote about that during spring training. He could take a PR lesson from Bruce. But if Bailey can come up here and get people out, fans don't care. Some guys who are awful with the media are great players.
    Good to hear from a media guy. I doubt McCoy's able to muster the same perspective -- he's too busy slapping "good guy" or "jerk" labels on all the young 'uns.
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